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Incomplete impure Koran of untrustworthy Muhammed

Incomplete impure Koran of untrustworthy Muhammed

Conclusion:
It seems that even the "good" of the Koran is based on Satan's power... Satan chose to let Muhammad live, when faced with the pagans whom Muhammad could not conquer without Satan's help. Or... if Satan did not inspire the verses, then Muhammad himself perverted God's law and therefore his recitation of the Koran is not pure or from God, at least in part, due to the materialistic (Satanic) Earth... the Earth that had power over even Muhammad. With verses missing, verses created by Muhammad according to his needs and not according to truth, and with an unknown quantity of verses inspired by Satan, the Koran is more of a mistake than divinely inspired. No wonder The Satanic Verses is such a painful reminder for Muslims of how their scripture is indebted to Satan!

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From: (Anonymous) Date: March 17th, 2003 05:42 am (UTC) (Link)

Incomplete impure Koran of untrustworthy Muhammed

To Vexen
First things first, i'm only anonymous b/c i'm too busy to try and sign up. But I need to comment on the above matter before i carry on with my life.

I am a Muslim and I love my Allah and his beloved Muhammed.
But this wasn't always the case. I am a lawyer and have the ability to argue rationally and logically. I argued the principles of my fellow Muslims, making there beliefs appear ridiculous. I didn't believe in a Creator and only went to Mosque for the sake of doin so...
I don't mean any offence to your beliefs etc.
But allow me to analyse your evidence in respect of the article concerned objectively using my mind and intellect. [ rather than my hearts convictions ]
1. Your sources and authority on The Qur'aan are not qualified therein. In any court of law, those persons cannot testify as experts witnesses b/c they cannot interpret the texts. Even though I as a lawyer or solicitor can interpret any countries constitution, I cannot interpret any religious book b/c I must learn the skill that would enable me to consider the relevant factors and thus formulate an opinion in that regard.

2. Lets look at the rules of the game of religion. From the divine religions there will be many sects, which would be due to arrogance of man, inspired by the Satan [ bear with me ]. This is clear from the faith of Christianity for example. Further, acc to the story Islam would have 73 sects. Muslims would never be united till just before the last days of this world... why b/c then the game would end. Now from which of the sects do you portray Islam. Getting difficult hey!!!

3. So one may ask, How do these idiots have a clue what they are doing or worshipping... Simple! Very Simple.

4. Allah either reveals himself to man [ and Jinn ] or the magnificance of the creator is left hidden. And how? The individual have any possible belief that there is a creator and to search for the light.

5. Further your notes on the Jinn are misleading, b/c there are good jinn and bad ones like man.

6. Man and jinn were created for the recognition of the creator Allah [ Man = 51% good potential and 49% bad and jinn vice versa

7. Sexualilty is encouraged in Islam within the confines of marriage etc etc.

8. what is promised to the Muslim in the hereafter makes these sacrifices of this world seem petty and thus the Muslim is prepared to give up all of it b/c the blankets of this world are removed from over his eyes.

9. Ackowledgement of stupidity of man an wisdom of the creator is the point where man becomes wise.

10.Satan was close to God and knew more about the creator than the other angels, but his as well as man's arrogance led to his failure.

11. Be frank with me here on this point, it takes more than the average man to understand you reasoning fully or any other argument on the purpose of life, so what is the condition of the man who isn't bright enough or the millions of them, do the stupid get left behind, is this just -

12. There are thousands theories to life but I stick with the most practical one and that is the one that teaches me :
how to eat, sleep, clean, conduct business, have sex, attain contentment and happiness,etc etc

but most of all : answers every question that a self rightious, arroagant man can ask and it makes perfect sense - but only when you sincerely want to be shown.
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From: (Anonymous) Date: April 26th, 2003 06:14 pm (UTC) (Link)

PLEASE CARRY ON YOUR LIE

Well ... Well... Well.. Dear Satan,

I am very happy to visit your website and having a VERY good time pass to read your funny stories. "BUT" I CAN TELL YOU THE REALITY. WHAT YOU THINK, YOUR PROPAGANDA IS FOR ALWAYS? THIS IS THE WAY OF "HELL". DON'T WORRY YOU WILL KNOW SOON ABOUT FAITH.
PLEASE CARRY ON YOUR JOB BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR FATHER DEVIL IN FIRE. ALL OF YOU AND YOUR SATANISM WILL BE IN HELL...THIS IS YOUR DISTINY. YOU CAN'T CHANGE IT.
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From: (Anonymous) Date: July 18th, 2003 01:47 pm (UTC) (Link)

Sura 53, Verses 19-20 of the Qur'an

I am absolutely appaled to see a comment like Muhammad declared the three pagan gods of Mecca valid intercessors!! Have you read this sura and the verses that you have so confidently quoted? God states "Have you then considered the Lat and the Uzza, and Manat, the third the last?" He goes on to say to the people worshipping these gods in verse 23 of the same sura: "They are naught but names which you have named, you and your fathers: Allah has not sent them for any authority. They follow naught but conjecture and the low desires which (their) souls incline to: and certainly the guidance has come to them from their Lord"

Here it is clearly stated that these gods were mere mortals, that their souls were driven by natural human urges and that theywere guided by a higher power. I don't see how you can say that Muhammad recited this verse when he was surrounded by the pagans, and declared the 3 gods true intercessors!

It is absolutely ridiculous as is your reasoning behind the unreliability of the Qur'an. The entire Qur'an was compiled within decades of Muhammad's death, and during the reign of the First Caliph the Qur'an in it's entirety was ready. Perhaps you would refer to a book called "The Bible, the Qur'an and Science" by Maurice Buccaile. He has explained the history surrounding the Qur'an.
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From: (Anonymous) Date: August 30th, 2003 07:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
your understanding of Islam is as shallow as a puddle of water on the road.Islam is not what you think it seems it is.If you it ture , why is it then ohe fastest growing religion in the world ?Its your perception and thinking that has been led astray by your highly profiled eso,self-denial and conceission.

Islam as far i know is all positive religion that practices all things good natured.Its you ,the ugly side of you that makes you have the said negative impression of Islam.

Allahuakbar.
God Almighty

daniel
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From: (Anonymous) Date: December 20th, 2003 01:20 pm (UTC) (Link)

How dare u...

Mr. Crabtree, I would like to know where u got the info about the 3 pagan idols & Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) even considering them as valid intercessors. What u write is complete rubbish. How dare u write about someone who u have no proper info about. Every single muslim knows beyond the shadow of a doubt that the Prophet would rather die than even think of the idols as intercessors, let alone say it to the polythiests. Allah will surely put u in the worst of hell unless u repent. And dont try to interpret the Quran, u dont even believe in God.
The entire Quran was correctly compiled. Not even 1 letter is misplaced. Thats the beauty of it. Allah has said in the Quran that he will protect it whereas the Bible & other books will become corrupt & this has been proved due to the innumerable amount of mistakes in the bible.
Since u satanists believe in Science, why dont u look at some of the scientific miracles mentioned in the Quran 1400 yrs ago which have come true just now? The Quran tells us how the Universe Originated, about human embryo, about Mountains, rain, etc... Go to http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/commodity/1089/id55.htm for more details. Did u know that there is a sea that has both sweet & salty water separated by an invisible barrier as said in the Quran. This has also been proved.
Do u think life is mere play? That we will not be held 2 account for our good & bad deeds? What is the purpose of life? Do u really beieve in the theory of evolution? That all that exists has merely "evolved" rather than Created? Allah says he has even put the tips of our fingers perfectly in the Quran. We're now using fingerprints 2 catch crooks!
How beautiful is the universe! So many billions of stars! Have they just evolved from the big bang? Well, how was everything before the big bang? Only Allah knows! And in Him we place our Faith.
You urself have stated somewhere in ur site that the best person 2 ask abt a religion is the follower of that religion. Eg, ask a chistian about christianity or even a satanist about satanism. Well, are you an idiot to expect people to believe a satanist on his opinion of Islam? All ur info on Islam is Wrong. Get ur sources checked. No one hates anyone more than a liar. If u want 2 research Islam, go 2 some proper Islamic sites, not satanic ones. Since satanists are so open minded, check out some real Islamic sites. Just type "Islam" in any search engine & bingo! U have loads of real Islamic sites.
I dare u to reply to this Mr. Crabtree.

-T
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 6th, 2004 01:37 am (UTC) (Link)

good read

Have you read http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

You really must, it proves beyond a shadow of doubt what islam really is.
using Ishaq's traditions, as written by tabari, hisham, muslim, etc. there really is no way any muslim can refute this.
Once read, you will know what muslims really don't want you to know, and that many don't know themselves.

it's in chronological order as well, which shows the truth of how mohammad (Mohamet) lived.
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From: (Anonymous) Date: April 19th, 2004 11:23 am (UTC) (Link)
I've never seen such a shallow interpretation of Islam and Qur'an. This is even funny to see how some people can be ignorant and with their ignorance based on zero research and no objectivity try to convince people about how they are "right".
Go back to school buddy and learn something useful for yourself instead of making laugh people with your insanities and below-poor arguments.