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Four Crown Princes Of Hell

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From: (Anonymous) Date: April 1st, 2003 08:36 am (UTC) (Link)

lucifer,helel

hey if u want to continue with the hebrew sequence of names u should use the hebrew name for the morning star ,hel-el.the same desription applies to hel-el but without the lucifer ,diana wicca(stregeria)connection . Los
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 1st, 2003 08:43 am (UTC) (Link)

chancellor of hell

hey u should also use andra-melech(moloch)who is the chancellor of hell and unifier of the 4 princes and princedoms .this gives u the 5names applied to the pentagram .also u can use ana-melka the consort of andra -melech .then u have the hexagram version. los
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: August 7th, 2003 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: chancellor of hell

Moloch is in the list of Infernal Names in the Satanic Bible, but is not a Crown Prince.
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 30th, 2003 10:12 am (UTC) (Link)

i need to know more about this stuff for a reort if u can help that'd be kool, email me..XxxK0rnWh0r3xxX@hotmail.com thanx
From: (Anonymous) Date: August 3rd, 2003 01:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
well. this is a very interesting site. im sure nt going to diss it even thought i dont believe in this. I do witchcrAft.. and i do understand some points that were mentioned here. Fuck God and all his lil' Christian Lovers!

* christian Killer *
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From: (Anonymous) Date: August 6th, 2003 08:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

ive been told this is wrong

your setup of the 4 crown princes of hell is wrong im sure....and isnt satna lucifer the same person? from what ive seen satan was to the east......adn there was rpince called azazel? explain...
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: August 7th, 2003 12:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: ive been told this is wrong

From the Satanic Bible:

"Azazel - (Hebrew) taught man to make weapons of war, introduced cosmetics"

There are many different occult schemes for assigning vast numbers of demons and beings to various cardinal points, many diagrams and charts plotting such entities across the stars, but, this particular site is based on the very simple and elite selection of demons & princes as given by Anton LaVey and as ratified by the Church of Satan.

Read the page on Lucifer, it will explain how the Christians mistakenly came to consider Lucifer and Satan to be synonymous. Historically, they are different characters.

But in Satanism, these four crown princes represent natural forces, they're all basically the same thing: Reality.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 3rd, 2007 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: ive been told this is wrong

No, Satan and Lucifer are two different entities altogether. Lucifer was actually an Arch Angel, basically Gods right hand man, and he let Pride get the best of him, and tried to overthrow Gods kingdom with about 1 third of the angels backing him, but in the end failed and was vanquished into what some would call hell, but under many beliefs into a realm hidden within our own which with some effort and knowledge they can actually be contacted and spoken with to gain knowledge. Satan on the other hand was actually another being created by God, and was suppose to be in charge of punishing sinners after death, though the two beliefs are that Lucifer later recruited Satan as one of his equals to claim a throne in hell, and the less common belief is that Satan isn't actually a demon of hell, but still a servent of God, and Lucifer mearly struck a deal with him where only followers of God who had sinned would be punished, and those who followed the path of Lucifer would be released into his control. It's a very complex system, which is more believeable is still in question by many, but that was the best I could do to answer that question, might be abit of info left out, but I simply tried to make this simple, but get the truth out.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 18th, 2003 10:20 pm (UTC) (Link)

you're already dead.

You are already dead if you trust in Satan. There is no good in him. He will lead you down into the black hole he dwells in with lost souls that scream for freedom. He will corrupt your mind. He will torment and kill your spirit. He is nothing but a liar. He wants you to feel sorry for him. And while you put so much effort into worshipping him and creating pointless and meaningless stupid sites about him, he's laughing in your face. Ispit on him and I will never follow him. Jesus Christ died for you so that you may live happiness forever and youslap him in the face like this? He went through hell and back for you. Shameless you are. But then again you are a satanist so of cousre you would be. I pitty you. I pitty your soul.

fellow soldier of the Lord almighty,
~Angela~
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 17th, 2005 01:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: you're already dead.

Jesus Christ? b*tch pleze.. hoe bout we put him on a steak and burn him? what the hell are you doing on this site anyways? huh angela? your dumb and you DONT understand anything that we believe in, and you never will.. you dont deserve it neways! people like you make me sick! go preach your bullsh*t somewhere else. we dont give 3 f*cks!!!!!!!!!!

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From: (Anonymous) Date: June 13th, 2006 11:54 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: you're already dead.

Hello Angela.

I am quite amused by your poor attempts to change one categorical beliefs into that of yours.

Funny, i'm actually writing a psychological philosophy currently on why it wouldn't work. I know I have mentioned this later on in this thread, but Chaos Magick i deceptive - and unfortunately, u have fallen play to it.

Ultimately, you are encapsulated and imprisoned by some sort of hierarchy that you understand not.. Simply is a door of perception that creates this platonic dogma from which you shall not stray.

The difference between a Satanist and a Christian, is not in the limitations of beliefs... but in the excercising of intellectual principles. I.e. A christian, please correct me if I am wrong, would not read a Satanist website or its contents. A Christian would simply criticise and philosophise about a concept put in front of them.

Satanists, however, have studied the Bible (or at least those who conduct the rants and litanies, have done so)and analysed it from a logical perspective. I am not sayin that one perspective is right, or one perspective is wrong... I am simply mentioning that the psychological analysis is something that is much different for Christianity that that for Satanism.

Object A: philosophies and intellectual concepts that operate on logic, mind, reason and tried/tested pratice,

Object B: philosophies and intellectual concepts that operate on humanitarian emotional structure and that of the irrational consciousness.

When both Objects are combined, one will result in Object C: complete and utter chaos. Debating is utterly pointless because of the psycho-philosophic differences between the two parties. If a Christian tried to debate on an Object A-type basis, they would lose. If a Satanist tried to debate on an Object B-type basis, they would certainly lose as well. Dante describes Satan at the centre of the Earth in a huge ball of Ice. I think that this was a particularly interesting and amazingly accurate insight into the future of Satanism, in metaphorical terms... I.e. Satanism is a cold philosophy. Unemotionless, but completely logical. Almost on the operating fields of a computer.

Therefore, I have one thing to say to you - and please remember this for the rest of your life.

You are wasting your time here. If you ever try to do this again, you will be wasting you time here. So fuck off and go suck Gods dick because I really couldn't care less about what you have to say you herd-conformist Christian cunt.

:D thank you!

Salem x

P.S. The thesis on Renovocism (the new psycho-philosophy I am writing) will be ready in due course, I will surely suggest the ideas to Mr. Crabtree... maybe it can be part of the Satanist ideals?

P.P.S. Shouldn't there be a Satanist festival for the 3 days that Jesus went to Hell?
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 3rd, 2007 12:59 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: you're already dead.

Really now? Well first off, most people don't even worship Satan you fool. They look to him for guidance, for God is a tyrant, and Satan a liberator. Oih, the things you Sheep say is insanity, really, honestly, think about it for a minute. Erm... God vanquished Lucifer from heaven, Satan was recruited, etc, etc... These people are enemies of God, yet they're going to make those who appose God suffer and burn? Sounds a little contradictory there, why do a favor for your enemy? It's just mindless thinking if you ask me, you people read one book, and you're convinced that everything it speaks of is truth and can't be argued, but if you would take even 2 minutes to really think about it, you would see none of it fits together, it's all a form of control for the mindless individuals of our planet. Continue thinking the way you do, in the end things won't be as you expected, and turning back would be an option no longer available. And don't even pull that jesus crap, he did nothing for me, he just showed faith and died for it, I didn't ask him to take on the cross, to preach his crap, he did it of his own free will, I exist 2000+ years after and he was doing it for me? I doubt it.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 30th, 2003 12:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

damned to understand

i understand how the four princes come together. i believe in the four princes and i worship each of them. to me life can become a basis for these princes to be bound to. there is nothing wrong about what is said here, it is bound on true belief that i know and believe is correct. i am bound spiritually to satan and lucifer.

Acid Rayne
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From: (Anonymous) Date: November 24th, 2003 11:14 am (UTC) (Link)
fuck you nigga
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 28th, 2003 12:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

?

do satanist belive in satan as a person?
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 27th, 2004 12:37 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: ?

No, satanists believe that satan is a metaphor for death & reality