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From: (Anonymous) Date: April 1st, 2003 08:36 am (UTC) (Link)

lucifer,helel

hey if u want to continue with the hebrew sequence of names u should use the hebrew name for the morning star ,hel-el.the same desription applies to hel-el but without the lucifer ,diana wicca(stregeria)connection . Los
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 1st, 2003 08:43 am (UTC) (Link)

chancellor of hell

hey u should also use andra-melech(moloch)who is the chancellor of hell and unifier of the 4 princes and princedoms .this gives u the 5names applied to the pentagram .also u can use ana-melka the consort of andra -melech .then u have the hexagram version. los
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: August 7th, 2003 12:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: chancellor of hell

Moloch is in the list of Infernal Names in the Satanic Bible, but is not a Crown Prince.
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 30th, 2003 10:12 am (UTC) (Link)

i need to know more about this stuff for a reort if u can help that'd be kool, email me..XxxK0rnWh0r3xxX@hotmail.com thanx
From: (Anonymous) Date: August 3rd, 2003 01:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
well. this is a very interesting site. im sure nt going to diss it even thought i dont believe in this. I do witchcrAft.. and i do understand some points that were mentioned here. Fuck God and all his lil' Christian Lovers!

* christian Killer *
666
From: (Anonymous) Date: August 6th, 2003 08:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

ive been told this is wrong

your setup of the 4 crown princes of hell is wrong im sure....and isnt satna lucifer the same person? from what ive seen satan was to the east......adn there was rpince called azazel? explain...
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: August 7th, 2003 12:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: ive been told this is wrong

From the Satanic Bible:

"Azazel - (Hebrew) taught man to make weapons of war, introduced cosmetics"

There are many different occult schemes for assigning vast numbers of demons and beings to various cardinal points, many diagrams and charts plotting such entities across the stars, but, this particular site is based on the very simple and elite selection of demons & princes as given by Anton LaVey and as ratified by the Church of Satan.

Read the page on Lucifer, it will explain how the Christians mistakenly came to consider Lucifer and Satan to be synonymous. Historically, they are different characters.

But in Satanism, these four crown princes represent natural forces, they're all basically the same thing: Reality.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 3rd, 2007 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: ive been told this is wrong

No, Satan and Lucifer are two different entities altogether. Lucifer was actually an Arch Angel, basically Gods right hand man, and he let Pride get the best of him, and tried to overthrow Gods kingdom with about 1 third of the angels backing him, but in the end failed and was vanquished into what some would call hell, but under many beliefs into a realm hidden within our own which with some effort and knowledge they can actually be contacted and spoken with to gain knowledge. Satan on the other hand was actually another being created by God, and was suppose to be in charge of punishing sinners after death, though the two beliefs are that Lucifer later recruited Satan as one of his equals to claim a throne in hell, and the less common belief is that Satan isn't actually a demon of hell, but still a servent of God, and Lucifer mearly struck a deal with him where only followers of God who had sinned would be punished, and those who followed the path of Lucifer would be released into his control. It's a very complex system, which is more believeable is still in question by many, but that was the best I could do to answer that question, might be abit of info left out, but I simply tried to make this simple, but get the truth out.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 18th, 2003 10:20 pm (UTC) (Link)

you're already dead.

You are already dead if you trust in Satan. There is no good in him. He will lead you down into the black hole he dwells in with lost souls that scream for freedom. He will corrupt your mind. He will torment and kill your spirit. He is nothing but a liar. He wants you to feel sorry for him. And while you put so much effort into worshipping him and creating pointless and meaningless stupid sites about him, he's laughing in your face. Ispit on him and I will never follow him. Jesus Christ died for you so that you may live happiness forever and youslap him in the face like this? He went through hell and back for you. Shameless you are. But then again you are a satanist so of cousre you would be. I pitty you. I pitty your soul.

fellow soldier of the Lord almighty,
~Angela~
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 17th, 2005 01:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: you're already dead.

Jesus Christ? b*tch pleze.. hoe bout we put him on a steak and burn him? what the hell are you doing on this site anyways? huh angela? your dumb and you DONT understand anything that we believe in, and you never will.. you dont deserve it neways! people like you make me sick! go preach your bullsh*t somewhere else. we dont give 3 f*cks!!!!!!!!!!

666
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 13th, 2006 11:54 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: you're already dead.

Hello Angela.

I am quite amused by your poor attempts to change one categorical beliefs into that of yours.

Funny, i'm actually writing a psychological philosophy currently on why it wouldn't work. I know I have mentioned this later on in this thread, but Chaos Magick i deceptive - and unfortunately, u have fallen play to it.

Ultimately, you are encapsulated and imprisoned by some sort of hierarchy that you understand not.. Simply is a door of perception that creates this platonic dogma from which you shall not stray.

The difference between a Satanist and a Christian, is not in the limitations of beliefs... but in the excercising of intellectual principles. I.e. A christian, please correct me if I am wrong, would not read a Satanist website or its contents. A Christian would simply criticise and philosophise about a concept put in front of them.

Satanists, however, have studied the Bible (or at least those who conduct the rants and litanies, have done so)and analysed it from a logical perspective. I am not sayin that one perspective is right, or one perspective is wrong... I am simply mentioning that the psychological analysis is something that is much different for Christianity that that for Satanism.

Object A: philosophies and intellectual concepts that operate on logic, mind, reason and tried/tested pratice,

Object B: philosophies and intellectual concepts that operate on humanitarian emotional structure and that of the irrational consciousness.

When both Objects are combined, one will result in Object C: complete and utter chaos. Debating is utterly pointless because of the psycho-philosophic differences between the two parties. If a Christian tried to debate on an Object A-type basis, they would lose. If a Satanist tried to debate on an Object B-type basis, they would certainly lose as well. Dante describes Satan at the centre of the Earth in a huge ball of Ice. I think that this was a particularly interesting and amazingly accurate insight into the future of Satanism, in metaphorical terms... I.e. Satanism is a cold philosophy. Unemotionless, but completely logical. Almost on the operating fields of a computer.

Therefore, I have one thing to say to you - and please remember this for the rest of your life.

You are wasting your time here. If you ever try to do this again, you will be wasting you time here. So fuck off and go suck Gods dick because I really couldn't care less about what you have to say you herd-conformist Christian cunt.

:D thank you!

Salem x

P.S. The thesis on Renovocism (the new psycho-philosophy I am writing) will be ready in due course, I will surely suggest the ideas to Mr. Crabtree... maybe it can be part of the Satanist ideals?

P.P.S. Shouldn't there be a Satanist festival for the 3 days that Jesus went to Hell?
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 3rd, 2007 12:59 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: you're already dead.

Really now? Well first off, most people don't even worship Satan you fool. They look to him for guidance, for God is a tyrant, and Satan a liberator. Oih, the things you Sheep say is insanity, really, honestly, think about it for a minute. Erm... God vanquished Lucifer from heaven, Satan was recruited, etc, etc... These people are enemies of God, yet they're going to make those who appose God suffer and burn? Sounds a little contradictory there, why do a favor for your enemy? It's just mindless thinking if you ask me, you people read one book, and you're convinced that everything it speaks of is truth and can't be argued, but if you would take even 2 minutes to really think about it, you would see none of it fits together, it's all a form of control for the mindless individuals of our planet. Continue thinking the way you do, in the end things won't be as you expected, and turning back would be an option no longer available. And don't even pull that jesus crap, he did nothing for me, he just showed faith and died for it, I didn't ask him to take on the cross, to preach his crap, he did it of his own free will, I exist 2000+ years after and he was doing it for me? I doubt it.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 30th, 2003 12:07 pm (UTC) (Link)

damned to understand

i understand how the four princes come together. i believe in the four princes and i worship each of them. to me life can become a basis for these princes to be bound to. there is nothing wrong about what is said here, it is bound on true belief that i know and believe is correct. i am bound spiritually to satan and lucifer.

Acid Rayne
6666666
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 24th, 2003 11:14 am (UTC) (Link)
fuck you nigga
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 28th, 2003 12:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

?

do satanist belive in satan as a person?
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 27th, 2004 12:37 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: ?

No, satanists believe that satan is a metaphor for death & reality
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 29th, 2003 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Psychoanalysis and Civilization (1962 )


Civilizations are not natural, they are all man made, below my letter, is an important book titled " Psychoanalysis and Civilization " 1962,pg 1- and you'll realize how and why they formed, ( for survival..food, and love ect )

In psychoanalysis ( Mental analysis ) the 3 main motivaing issues Human Beings deal with are issues of (1) Power (2) Sex Gratification and (3)Security from Death, because these 3 issues hold survival value for people.

I think cryonic suspension ( freezing ) after death, should provide civilizations with a form of security from death, then hoepfully when we are resurrected, we'll have robotic humaniod parents with concrete homes with lots of cheap electric power, and toys, machines made, as in an empowered child culture with robot parents, where are work is fun and play, and governemtns make their own gold coin tax money from transmutates lead ...the future ..or instead of resurrection of the dead body..if we want to use space planes to send us into the cold outerdarkess of space ( a heavenly amusement park ?) and float for million of years, like a comet or asteroid, fly out of here, we can do that too.

May God's good fun spirit be with you

Br Dan

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Psychoanalysis and Civilization [1962]

by Paul Rosenfels

PREFACE

The development of a science of human nature is primarily a semantic problem. Man dwells in a self-made world of meanings, established through the use of words, and an equally self-made world of values, brought into being by the creation of procedures and techniques. Important psychological abstractions like love, mercy, and honesty must be understood in depth, which means that they take on a permanent core of meaning which can be readily communicated. If these words change in meaning with changing circumstances they become mere words, phantoms from which life has departed, and no matter how much intensity of feeling the user brings to the words in an attempt to endow them with life, they remain mere echoes of the insight they are supposed to embody.

When the fundamental abstractions on which human communication rests cannot find a permanent identity, each man is burdened with the necessity of finding the meanings of human ideas in his own life. There is no established body of universal truth in human matters on which he can rely, and the consequent insecurity for the seeker of human truth becomes very great. Since everyone who thinks creatively must have a unified and permanent view of life many men are forced to accept that view of life which wards off discontent and anxiety, rather than maintaining that open search which only ends in the presence of the truth.

If abstractions which describe human nature are to be understood in depth they must be seen in relationship to the experiences which give them depth. Everything of importance in human nature has a paired quality, because it is part of the reciprocal relationship between the submissive and the dominant in the life process. Depth is intensified in the presence of vigor; vigor is enlivened in the presence of depth. Love takes on its real meaning only in relationship to power; power finds its true value in relationship to love. In this book, love and power are considered together, and all important concepts concerned in human nature are placed in similar pairs. Out of this viewpoint a greater unification of human nature as a subject matter becomes possible. Men do not have to fear being abstract in viewing human nature; what they have to fear is the production of abstractions which have no relationship to the concrete world of the life of action.

1

Civilization took its origin in the social ideas arising from the priest's view of
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 29th, 2003 10:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Modern Alchemy

Transmutation Lead into Gold ( it's been already done )

Historical Alchemical substances

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Cadmia, which was also called Tuttia or Tutty, was probably zinc carbonate.
Philosophers' Wool, or nix alba (white snow).Zinc oxide made by burning zinc in air. Called Zinc White and used as a pigment.
White vitriol. Zinc Sulphate. Described by Basil Valentine. Made by lixiviating roasted zinc blende (zinc sulphide).
Calamine. Zinc carbonate.

Corrosive sublimate. Mercuric chloride. first mentioned by Geber, who prepared it by subliming mercury, calcined green vitriol, common salt and nitre.
Calomel. Mercurous chloride. Purgative, made by subliming a mixture of mercuric chloride and metallic mercury, triturated in a mortar. This was heated in a iron pot and the crust of calomel formed on the lid was ground to powder and boiled with water to remove the very poisonous mercuric chloride.
Cinnabar. Mercuric sulphide.
Turpeth mineral. A hydrolysed form of mercuric sulphate. Yellow crystalline powder, described by Basil Valentine.
Mercurius praecipitatus. Red mercuric oxide. Described by Geber.
Cinnabar or Vermillion. Mercuric sulphide.

Mosaic gold. Golden-yellow glistening scales of crystalline stannic sulphide, made by heating a mixture of tin filings, sulphur and salammoniac.
Tin salt. Hydrated stannous chloride.
Spiritus fumans. Stannic chloride, discovered by Libavius in 1605, through distilling tin with corrosive sublimate.
Butter of tin. Hydrated stannic chloride.

Galena. Plumbic sulphide. Chief ore of lead.
Lead fume. Lead oxide obtained from the flues at lead smelters.
Massicot. Yellow powder form of lead monoxide.
Litharge. Reddish-yellow crystalline form of lead monoxide, formed by fusing and powdering massicot.
Minium or Red Lead. Triplumbic tetroxide. Formed by roasting litharge in air. Scarlet crystalline powder.
Naples yellow, or Cassel yellow. An oxychloride of lead, made by heating litharge with sal ammoniac.
Chrome yellow. Lead chromate.
Sugar of Lead. Lead acetate, Made by dissolving lead oxide in vinegar.
White lead. Basic carbonate of lead. Used as a pigment.
Venetian White. Mixture of equal parts of white lead and barium sulphate.
Dutch White. Mixture of one part of white lead to three of barium sulphate.

Antimony. From latin 'antimonium' used by Constantinius Africanus (c. 1050) to refer to Stibnite.
Glass of Antimony. Impure antimony tetroxide, obtained by roasting stibnite. Used as a yellow pigment for glass and porcelain.
Butter of Antimony. White crystalline antimony trichloride. Made by Basil Valentine by distilling roasted stibnite with corrosive sublimate. Glauber later prepared it by dissolving stibnite in hot concentrated hydrochloric acid and distilling.
Powder of Algaroth. A white powder of antimonious oxychloride, made by by precipitation when a solution of butter of antimony in spirit of salt is poured into water.
Stibnite. Antimony trisulphide. Grey mineral ore of antimony.
Wismuth. Bismuth.
Pearl white. Basic nitrate of bismuth, used by Lemery as a cosmetic.
Chrome green. Chromic oxide.
Chrome yellow. Lead chromate.
Chrome red. Basic lead chromate.
Chrome orange. Mixture of chrome yellow and chrome red.

Green Vitriol. Ferrous sulphate.
Rouge, Crocus, Colcothar. Red varieties of ferric oxide are formed by burning green vitriol in air.
Marcasite. Mineral form of Iron disulphide. Oxidises in moist air to green vitriol.
Pyrites. Mineral form of iron disulphide. Stable in air.
Cobalt. Named by the copper miners of the Hartz Mountains after the evil spirits the 'kobolds' which gave a false copper ore.
Zaffre. Impure cobalt arsenate, left after roasting cobalt ore.
Nickel. Named by the copper miners of Westphalia the 'kupfer-nickel' or false copper.

Copper glance. Cuprous sulphide ore.
Aes cyprium. Cyprian brass or copper.
Cuprite. Red cuprous oxide ore.
Blue vitriol or bluestone. Cupric sulphate.
Verdigris. The green substance formed by the atmospheric weathering of copper. This is a complex basic carbonate of copper. In more recent times the term 'verdigris' is more correctly applied to copper acetate, made by the action of vinegar on copper.
Resin of copper. Cuprous chloride. Made by Robert Boyle in 1664 by heating copper with corrosive sublimate.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 29th, 2003 10:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

Resurrection of the Dead Body



A Few Words From Our Forefather



In a life filled with many accomplishments, Ben Franklin gained notoreity for, among other things, "discovering" electricity and helping to write the U.S. Constitution. But as if those things were not enough, he also took time out during his busy life to predict, Nostradamus-style, the future practice of cryonic suspension.

Sort of.

In the letter below, to his friend and fellow scientist Jacques Dubourg, he says several things that now seem almost eerily prescient. More than anything, his words convey a general optimism about science and its value, and a desire to be around in the far future to see how it all turns out. Today's cryonicists generally find more than a little to symapthize with in these thoughts.

Too bad that, as he feared, the science of his age was "too little advanced" to afford him the opportunity for more life. There is no doubt that having him around today would be a tremendous boon to historians and the curiousity-filled public. Of course, having Ben Franklin alive today would have beend an even bigger boon to Ben Franklin himself, historical figure or not.

"A hundred years hence," will people be saying the same thing about you? Ruminating your passing? Wondering how you would have liked the way the world turned out? Unlike poor Ben, you have at least one option for avoiding that. Will you?

* * *

London, April 1773.

To Jacques Dubourg.

Your observations on the causes of death, and the experiments which you propose for recalling to life those who appear to be killed by lightning, demonstrate equally your sagacity and your humanity. It appears that the doctrine of life and death in general is yet but little understood...

I wish it were possible... to invent a method of embalming drowned persons, in such a manner that they might be recalled to life at any period, however distant; for having a very ardent desire to see and observe the state of America a hundred years hence, I should prefer to an ordinary death, being immersed with a few friends in a cask of Madeira, until that time, then to be recalled to life by the solar warmth of my dear country! But... in all probability, we live in a century too little advanced, and too near the infancy of science, to see such an art brought in our time to its perfection...

I am, etc.

- B. FRANKLIN.

[From Mr. Franklin, A Selection from His Personal Letters, by L. W. Labaree and W. J. Bell, Jr. (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1956), pp. 27-29.]

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From: (Anonymous) Date: January 13th, 2004 06:39 pm (UTC) (Link)

you need help

The subject line says it all
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 18th, 2004 05:22 am (UTC) (Link)

fuckin wierdos!!!!

YOU LOT ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FREAKS! YOUR LIVES ARE THAT POINTLESS AND PATHETIC YOU HAVE TO WORSHIP BIBLICAL MYTHS, THERE EINT NO GOD AND THERE AINT NO FOUR SHITTY CROWNS EITHER, GET A LIFE YOU STUPID TWATS!!! YOU EINT COOL AND YOU EINT DIFFERENT, JUST A LOAD OF SHEEP. YEARS AGO YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT, BUT THESE DAYS YOU GO INTO THE CITY YOUR KIND ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE, DRESSED IN YOUR DODGY CLOTHES AND STUPID MAKE UP!

PATHETIC, ESPECIALLY YOU 'VEXEN CRABTREE!!'
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 25th, 2006 08:36 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: fuckin wierdos!!!!

Your spelt weirdo's wrong. And why not be a little more open minded? Fool.
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 5th, 2004 07:06 am (UTC) (Link)

i need a lover

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From: (Anonymous) Date: July 15th, 2004 12:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Interest concerning satanic symbols

There is an interest concerning the Four main forces of satanism namely Satan, Lucifer, Belial, and Levithian. The thing that interests me the most is the way LeVay chose two of the medieval-renaissance christian terms concerned with the christian devil. Satan being the devil and Lucifer the price of darkness in hell. More so Belial, one of the fallen angels a.k.a the supposed basis of evil on earth. It seems to me like LeVay was mocking the Christian views or condemning them to be false. Now I have no evidence to support this nor am I in any way condemning the founder of this recent and highly interesting religion. I just wonder is there anyone who thinks the same as I or wishes to make comment to this note
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 13th, 2006 11:37 am (UTC) (Link)

Manipulation and Chaos Magick.

I was recently advising and teaching one of my friends on the concept of Chaos Magick, having been one who has experienced its sheer deceptive beauty.

I would like to ask if Chaos Magick is something that comes under the rulings and principles of Leviathan... somewhat an obscurity of the subconscious I believe is something that is of a twisted sea serpent.

On this note I would like to request a comprehensive tutorial on the use of Chaos Magick and its main principles when applying it to humanitarian interests - though negated and dark as my intentions are for its use.

Many regards (and please reply to russian.panda@gmail.com),

Salem x
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