none of you know all there is or what is to be come and hunt me in the mists of time with your death out of sight but the screams grow closer and closer you shall not run but kneel to the master of time and reallity and your exitents
I would leave my e-mail (firstname.lastname@example.org), except I am not a member of LiveJournal. My thoughts are simple. Philo did not believe Jesus was whom He claimed to be. Jesus, in the 4 Gospels, claimed to be deity. Philo retained his Jewish heritage. He would never accept this. But Philo did what many still do; they try to find some historical precedent for Christ and Christianity in prior Greek philosophy.
That is still going on today; but I reject that concept completely. The writers of the New Testament and the Gospels did not see themselves as following some Greek philosophy. Not at all. Rather, as is borne out in the Book of Acts, these men saw themselves as starting something brand new. The claims of Jesus Christ were based upon the Old Testament, which Philo largely overlooked. The Word is seen throughout the Old Testament. Christianity was, and still is, a radical departure from human philosophy.
If the story is true or not anyone attacking something that holds many millions of people together is sick. Mnay of the true native poeple believe in it now too. If a life boat is saving people why would you shoot it down. Tommy Hawksblood
I read your book not one time not two times but I read your book three times. Why? I wanted to make sure I understood what you were saying. Your point of view is obvious. You wrote an anti-Christian book using anti-Christian references picking and choosing lines you wanted to use that supported your statement. And in some examples you completely made things up! I'm sure you made a lot of money!
I have read the book and whilst I am not entirely convinced of its accuracy in all cases, nevertheless, it raises important issues regarding the plausibility of Christianity and the existence of Jesus as a historical figure. I have read many books and articles about Jesus and Christianity (including the Bible) and understand that there are many historical and textual discrepancies, amendments, later additions and retranslations. I also appreciate that many Christian rituals and 'holy days' have been taken from or superimposed upon those of previous religions. I am not anti-Christian by any means but the accuracy of the Bible and supporting evidence for the existence of Jesus must be called into question. I am also fascinated that a religion supposedly based upon peace, love, respect and tolerance has been corrupted so much and used as a method of division, prejudice, hatred and social control for 2000 years.
I am trying to find out which Bible version Freke and Gandy use in Jesus and the Lost Goddess as a source. They quote the following as from Galatians 5:12, but I can't find this in any of the three Bibles I checked:
[Paul ridiculing Ebionites (pgs 29-30)] as 'axe-wielding circumcisionaries' who might as well 'go the whole way and make eunuchs of themselves!'
A hilarious line if there ever was one, but its accuracy seems dubious to me unless I can find its true reference.
Does anyone know where you can find historically that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th?
I can't find it in the Bible, the other written Gospels, or any secular text around the Bible origin days. I don't see where Dec. 25th or that period of the year is expressed by any credible source. All I can find is that Dec. 25th was selected by the Roman government (not associated with Bible writings).
If anyone can help, post here, I'll check back occasionally.
Re: Does anyone know where you can find historically that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th?
25th of December is the birthdate of traditional pagan man-gods, and has nothing to do with Biblical Christianity.
Christians for a few hundred years did not celebrate Christmas.
Early Christian fathers note that only pagan sun-worshippers celebrate on the 25th of December (by our calendar). Sun worshipping religions have worshipped on Sundays, and on the Winter Solstice, for many hundreds of years before Christianity took up the practice. Jesus was not born in December, or in January. Luke 2:8 states that shephards were out watching their flocks by night. No flocks would have been out, during winter! The average winter temperature in Israel is 5 or 6 degrees celsius. Farmers in Israel did not allow their flocks out during such cold nights. Luke 2:8 implies that Jesus was born during warm months.
The reason Christianity came to celebrate Christmas was that modern Christianity is mixed up with many pagan practices.