"The Jesus Mysteries" by Freke & Gandy

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From: (Anonymous)	Date: November 13th, 2009 06:37 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Does anyone know where you can find historically that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th?

I can't find it in the Bible, the other written Gospels, or any secular text around the Bible origin days. I don't see where Dec. 25th or that period of the year is expressed by any credible source. All I can find is that Dec. 25th was selected by the Roman government (not associated with Bible writings).

If anyone can help, post here, I'll check back occasionally.

Thx

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	From: vexen	Date: November 13th, 2009 07:22 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: Does anyone know where you can find historically that Jesus was born on Dec. 25th?

25th of December is the birthdate of traditional pagan man-gods, and has nothing to do with Biblical Christianity.

Christians for a few hundred years did not celebrate Christmas.

Early Christian fathers note that only pagan sun-worshippers celebrate on the 25th of December (by our calendar). Sun worshipping religions have worshipped on Sundays, and on the Winter Solstice, for many hundreds of years before Christianity took up the practice. Jesus was not born in December, or in January. Luke 2:8 states that shephards were out watching their flocks by night. No flocks would have been out, during winter! The average winter temperature in Israel is 5 or 6 degrees celsius. Farmers in Israel did not allow their flocks out during such cold nights. Luke 2:8 implies that Jesus was born during warm months.

The reason Christianity came to celebrate Christmas was that modern Christianity is mixed up with many pagan practices.

Check out "Christmas: Paganism, Sun Worship and Commercialism" by Vexen Crabtree (2008).

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