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From: (Anonymous) Date: March 21st, 2003 02:11 pm (UTC) (Link)

what I think of the islam

I think islam is THE stupitest belief. they hold on to al book that is written a few thousend years ago, an belief, no matter how much the world has changed, those belief should still be followed.
The are so focused on worshipping "alla", they forget to fit in to the rest of the world. even if the flee, to other country's, they still are fundamentelist moslims. The worst thing about them, is that they are so firm in their beliefs, they CANT listen to other people. what they belief is true, even if they ARE wrong.

I can only say 1 thing. LETS WORK TOGETHER TO DRIVE THE ILSAM OUT OF THE WORLD

srry, for the wrong usage of enlish( if their is any) but I live in holland, where they speak dutch.
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 26th, 2003 12:06 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

oh wow..your comment is so impressive. Ya know, I never thought someone could be so lame and replied like that msg..that's the most hillarious msg I've ever read, seriously. Seriously, it shows that the person who typed that msg is an illitrate, you never read or know anything about islamic don't cha ? It's you who should be banished from this world, or else, you could always dig your own grave...How could you judge all those muslims by someone else's retarded action? You don't even know these ppl..you can't judge that they are all the same. Seriously..go and learn some religious practises before you keep on bashing about other ppl.
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: May 30th, 2003 10:28 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

I think the author had a valid initial point, that beliefs founded on ancient and outdated ways of life and beliefs should probably be abandoned.

His other point is that Islam in particular is anti-modern, and socially non-conformist (therefore sectarian), which is socially a bad thing. This is true, Islam, of all the world religions, is heavily opposed to "progress" or "change", the book "Islam and Modernity" by Montgommery Watt as about this aspect of Islam, it is not in itself a provocative or surprising statement to say that Islam is opposed to social, technological change or "progress" as we would call it.

Although the authors tone of voice was a little ignorant, combined with an apparently real lack of knowledge about the foundation and history of Islam, I think he merely needs to change the way he expressed his message rather than have his message banished from the world..,
jaeztheangel From: [info]jaeztheangel Date: January 18th, 2005 12:48 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

Much of the information presented in the site that refers to this journal on the topic of Satanism's 'view' on Islam is inaccurate, unbalanced, incomplete, or a combination of all three. The rest is out-of-date. It seems that this discussion was designed to provoke negative commentary on islam without providing access to accurate information so as to sustain a childish bias built upon a primitive fear response of a faith that is already misunderstood because it represents a complex and coherent pattern of life which is a geniune positive alternative to those normally experience in the European and American nations. In contrast to Christian derivative, or parasitical pseudo-political movements.

May I recommend some links?

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579171/Islam.html

- This is the Encarta entry on Islam, it covers most of the major points one needs to visit in any introduction to Islam.

http://al-islam.com/articles/articles-e.asp?fname=ALISLAM_R44_E

- This page has comments by people from different parts of the world (Austria, United Kingdom, Japan, etc) who for various reasons have entered islam from other life views. It details their unedited views, and provides an insight into why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world today.


http://ireland.iol.ie/~afifi/Articles/image.htm

- this page contains an excellent overview of how islam is portrayed in western media, and details the historical imperatives operating on the collective consciousness of those approaching islam and muslims for the first time through the matrix of an occidental upbringing.

I hope this helps in people's general exploration of the religion. It is never constructive to engender fear and hatred in any sort of column, when all the facts are readily available and easily verifiable. I hope this helps.

Jaez
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 22nd, 2007 01:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

first read the quran.i was just like u guys when i did not know about islam i converted to islam at 22.read the quran.Allah will indeed show u his signs.
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: May 30th, 2003 10:23 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

A few thousand years ago??? I don't think you know much about Islam... I have some basic information about the foundation of Islam and it's texts on http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/islam_untrustworthykoran.html and it's probably worth reading up on a religion before you attempt to bash it.

You have said that because the world has changed since their book was written, it is outdated. By this logic, most world religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, etc) should also be questioned, because their beliefs were founded on incomplete and outdated information. In this I agree.

But I don't agree that Islam is the worst religion. I think fundamentalism is the worst, and fundamentalism occurs inside of most religions, especially American Christianity and Eastern Islam. So I will happily work with you and everyone else to remove fundamentalism, and fundamentalist religion, first.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 26th, 2004 07:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

Well if islam is the stupidest belief, can u please tell me why is it that, islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, christians, jewisih... all sorts of people are converting into muslims

And we are the only religion that i know of, which has hold onto our book for millions of years, no offense to anyone, but the bible is not the original copy, it has been changed so many times
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 24th, 2005 09:35 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

Thank you! Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. People who are so ready to bash Islam know very little or nothing about it except what they hear from an Freemason or a depressed or angry person. You know how we are all encouraged to be open minded towards others? well, maybe you need to listen to your own advice the next time you decide to make uneducated guess about anything. Read both sides of the issue before commenting and do not rely on the media to tell you all the facts, because the real story does not make "good television".
From: (Anonymous) Date: December 11th, 2004 09:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

In Islam, the word worship doesn't mean just to sit and pray to God. it means to live normally, like everyone else, but while satisfying God, without commiting the sins he prohibited us to do, and do the religious ritual stuff like praying. and islam is not against progress and change, it encourages scientific progress and spreading peace in the world. and about the quraan, it's a book that's written by God, and it's valid for all the times and places, and whoever studies it finds that many scientific things written in the quran happen nowadays.
By driving Islam out of this world you're bringing evil instead, so let's spread islam and worship one God, because there is no other one but him
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 30th, 2005 07:09 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

Hello, my name is Magnus Alexander Rawstron Ibrahim and I am spreading news to Islamic groups all over earth of the man who is claiming to be Mahdi, the 12th Imam.
This man is writing a book which goes against some teachings of Muhammad so it is all Muslims religious duty to check out this man in full. Every Muslim and Asian person in his hometown of Bolton in the United Kingdom either suspects of believes he is Mahdi, the 12th Imam and The Christ, so there are thousands of you’re people who can verify his supernatural claims.
He is writing a book and has given 4 chapters of this book on the net which the address of is as follows: http://agnusdei.150m.com It is a free web site space so bandwidth is limited to daily amounts, so if you don’t get to log in one day try the next day when bandwidth limits would have been reset.
Please pass these details onto as many people in you’re religion and country as is possible for you to do so, which I need all people in Indonesia to learn of in full.
Christians should not be being targeted and this Mahdi man tells the world in his website of how to counter U.S. and U.K. naval vessels, in ways which cannot be countered by them naval vessels. He has also told the world of these things in a legal hinted way, so please study his words carefully, where he is talking of Iran in nice ways.
Thank you for listening and this man really is Mahdi, the 12th Imam, or the Christ, whatever you wish to call him he is that man.

Thank you for listening again.

From Magnus.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 8th, 2006 01:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

if you're a satanist then you're probably the biggest hippocrite alive because i think it's a cardinal sin to be stupid and closed minded. you probably don't know shit about islam except for the fact that its talked about negatively, being a violent and extremist religion. you are one of the millions of conformist islam-hating cunts that have simply believed what has been fed to them from the media, and i think i make sense when i say that THAT, is pretty fucking stupid. i suggest you learn more about islam before you decide to "drive it out of the world", and read from alot of sources especially other from vexen's, which unfortunateley, has some pretty bull-shit facts about islam. vexen i make total sense when i say that you are either one stupid asshole or a lying son of a bitch. if satanism made sense than you wouldn't have to make up crap about other religions and post it on your website so people would abandom them for satanism. mohammad NEVER said that he believed idols were gods that is complete bullshit, everything about satan supposedly "slipping bad versus in the koran" is all bullshit which u believed from an untrusworthy source or even worse: you made up in order to give islam an even worse reputation than it already has.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 21st, 2006 09:32 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

One question: Prove your real and not an imagination or under the control of a higher being...pinching yourself can also happen in deams.

well...i found islam as one of the most logical religions ever...by the way...many ppl are trying to write one line with the deep meaning and easy reading as the Quran but they fail to do so...

so i put forward this challange to you people also and all those who think islam is a stupified religion..write anything which can even match the meaning and depth of any line in the Quran if u can..you can read a few lines at this link...
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/055.qmt.html
when you read this please think logically about everyline and remember this book came 1400 years ago and is talking about things Science and Technology is descovering withen 5-6 years.(i Mentioned Science and Technology because its a major part in LeVay Satanists)



by the way Islam was not founded by Muhammad it was convayed by him..and secondly he only showed people the way of living and he followed the Quran as well...so the information on islam on this website is wrong
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/islam.html
you guys should try this website for more and accurate information on the Quran...i found it very useful on my research and believe it is a good Website to research Islam and in paticular Quran which is a book for all people not just Muslims
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/quranindex.html
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 2nd, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: what I think of the islam

What u r saying about other religion shows how stupid u your self are because you do not have respect for people therefpore people will not show you any respect. Besides you are using gutter language which no decent person will even bother to look at.I do not care what religin you follow but u sound like full of hate about other fellow humans. To cut the long story short u r basically an anti-christian -anti-muslim and anti-jewish human being and hence worse than an animal. Even animal in their animal kingdom do not hate other animals.You did not write this message because you wanted criticise muslims,you r here to find out how many muslims will respond to your gutter language criticm ? its a trap.and y r crap.
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 16th, 2003 01:36 pm (UTC) (Link)

you are all wrong!!!

ok, im not satanic, i am not islamic either,
but i know a whole lot more than you could ever know about islam and christianity....

islam and christianity are the same, but too bad that ppl dont realise that, and i think that we all know who's fault is it, of course if one knows about the history of religions one would know, be it satan or the catholic church, same shit,

but all of you are wrong about islam,

follow the real islam, not the one bin laden does, and the world is way much better than one can possible imagine,


peace, to everyone that reads this mesage,
to christians, ilslamists, satanists, budhists, and all that i dont know about,

peace, world peace, thats what we need!!!
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 19th, 2005 11:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: you are all wrong!!!

i absolutely 100% agree with you. eventhough youre not islam but you have knowledge, not like all those stupid idiot moron, son of a b***h. a person must know what is islam then they could comment about islam. dont just simply give the comment, it would make them look like a stupid moron. im an islam and i dont go around and comment other religion without understanding them.
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 19th, 2005 11:10 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: you are all wrong!!!

i absolutely 100% agree with you. even though you're not islam but you have knowledge, not like all those stupid idiot moron, son of a b***h. a person must know what is islam then they could comment about islam. don't just simply give the comment, it would make them look like a stupid moron. I'm an islam and i don't go around and comment other religion without understanding them.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 6th, 2004 12:39 am (UTC) (Link)

islam

what has been written about islam for the reference for the followers of satanism is ridiculous. first of all, there is no concept of dualism in islam, there is no room for thinking that there are two forces in conflict in the universe. for everything is under the control and influence of ALLAH, THE ONE, THE ONLY. yes, including satan himself. satan has been empowered bY ALLAH(GOD)to test mankind. and satan himself is known to worship ALLAH. he is satan because he hates mankind, and his hate is greater than his worship. for those of you confused into the path of satanism, it is advised that you look into the doctrines and traditions of islam. ALLAH be with us all.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 6th, 2004 01:00 am (UTC) (Link)

islam

prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) is the prophet of all mankind, and not just to a certain group. He is the final prophet in the line of the holy prophets sent by ALLAH(GOD), and islam is not apart from the other monotheistic religions, but a finality. before any of you misguided people say anything about the holy Prophet(peace be upon him) it is better you read an account of his life. that way you will know what to think and what to say. your ignorance of the holy prophet(peace be upon him)is your loss, and not wanting to know about him would only mean stupidity. and you guys consider stupidity a cardinal sin, dont you?