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Islam and the West: Pluralism, Immigration and Danger

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what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2003-03-21 02:11 pm (UTC)

I think islam is THE stupitest belief. they hold on to al book that is written a few thousend years ago, an belief, no matter how much the world has changed, those belief should still be followed.
The are so focused on worshipping "alla", they forget to fit in to the rest of the world. even if the flee, to other country's, they still are fundamentelist moslims. The worst thing about them, is that they are so firm in their beliefs, they CANT listen to other people. what they belief is true, even if they ARE wrong.

I can only say 1 thing. LETS WORK TOGETHER TO DRIVE THE ILSAM OUT OF THE WORLD

srry, for the wrong usage of enlish( if their is any) but I live in holland, where they speak dutch.

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2003-05-26 12:06 am (UTC)

oh wow..your comment is so impressive. Ya know, I never thought someone could be so lame and replied like that msg..that's the most hillarious msg I've ever read, seriously. Seriously, it shows that the person who typed that msg is an illitrate, you never read or know anything about islamic don't cha ? It's you who should be banished from this world, or else, you could always dig your own grave...How could you judge all those muslims by someone else's retarded action? You don't even know these ppl..you can't judge that they are all the same. Seriously..go and learn some religious practises before you keep on bashing about other ppl.

Re: what I think of the islam

vexen

2003-05-30 10:28 am (UTC)

I think the author had a valid initial point, that beliefs founded on ancient and outdated ways of life and beliefs should probably be abandoned.

His other point is that Islam in particular is anti-modern, and socially non-conformist (therefore sectarian), which is socially a bad thing. This is true, Islam, of all the world religions, is heavily opposed to "progress" or "change", the book "Islam and Modernity" by Montgommery Watt as about this aspect of Islam, it is not in itself a provocative or surprising statement to say that Islam is opposed to social, technological change or "progress" as we would call it.

Although the authors tone of voice was a little ignorant, combined with an apparently real lack of knowledge about the foundation and history of Islam, I think he merely needs to change the way he expressed his message rather than have his message banished from the world..,

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2007-11-22 01:18 pm (UTC)

first read the quran.i was just like u guys when i did not know about islam i converted to islam at 22.read the quran.Allah will indeed show u his signs.

Re: what I think of the islam

vexen

2003-05-30 10:23 am (UTC)

A few thousand years ago??? I don't think you know much about Islam... I have some basic information about the foundation of Islam and it's texts on http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/islam_untrustworthykoran.html and it's probably worth reading up on a religion before you attempt to bash it.

You have said that because the world has changed since their book was written, it is outdated. By this logic, most world religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Judaism, etc) should also be questioned, because their beliefs were founded on incomplete and outdated information. In this I agree.

But I don't agree that Islam is the worst religion. I think fundamentalism is the worst, and fundamentalism occurs inside of most religions, especially American Christianity and Eastern Islam. So I will happily work with you and everyone else to remove fundamentalism, and fundamentalist religion, first.

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2004-10-26 07:48 pm (UTC)

Well if islam is the stupidest belief, can u please tell me why is it that, islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, christians, jewisih... all sorts of people are converting into muslims

And we are the only religion that i know of, which has hold onto our book for millions of years, no offense to anyone, but the bible is not the original copy, it has been changed so many times

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2005-04-24 09:35 pm (UTC)

Thank you! Finally someone who knows what they are talking about. People who are so ready to bash Islam know very little or nothing about it except what they hear from an Freemason or a depressed or angry person. You know how we are all encouraged to be open minded towards others? well, maybe you need to listen to your own advice the next time you decide to make uneducated guess about anything. Read both sides of the issue before commenting and do not rely on the media to tell you all the facts, because the real story does not make "good television".

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2004-12-11 09:26 pm (UTC)

In Islam, the word worship doesn't mean just to sit and pray to God. it means to live normally, like everyone else, but while satisfying God, without commiting the sins he prohibited us to do, and do the religious ritual stuff like praying. and islam is not against progress and change, it encourages scientific progress and spreading peace in the world. and about the quraan, it's a book that's written by God, and it's valid for all the times and places, and whoever studies it finds that many scientific things written in the quran happen nowadays.
By driving Islam out of this world you're bringing evil instead, so let's spread islam and worship one God, because there is no other one but him

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2005-05-30 07:09 pm (UTC)

Hello, my name is Magnus Alexander Rawstron Ibrahim and I am spreading news to Islamic groups all over earth of the man who is claiming to be Mahdi, the 12th Imam.
This man is writing a book which goes against some teachings of Muhammad so it is all Muslims religious duty to check out this man in full. Every Muslim and Asian person in his hometown of Bolton in the United Kingdom either suspects of believes he is Mahdi, the 12th Imam and The Christ, so there are thousands of you’re people who can verify his supernatural claims.
He is writing a book and has given 4 chapters of this book on the net which the address of is as follows: http://agnusdei.150m.com It is a free web site space so bandwidth is limited to daily amounts, so if you don’t get to log in one day try the next day when bandwidth limits would have been reset.
Please pass these details onto as many people in you’re religion and country as is possible for you to do so, which I need all people in Indonesia to learn of in full.
Christians should not be being targeted and this Mahdi man tells the world in his website of how to counter U.S. and U.K. naval vessels, in ways which cannot be countered by them naval vessels. He has also told the world of these things in a legal hinted way, so please study his words carefully, where he is talking of Iran in nice ways.
Thank you for listening and this man really is Mahdi, the 12th Imam, or the Christ, whatever you wish to call him he is that man.

Thank you for listening again.

From Magnus.

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2006-02-21 09:32 am (UTC)

One question: Prove your real and not an imagination or under the control of a higher being...pinching yourself can also happen in deams.

well...i found islam as one of the most logical religions ever...by the way...many ppl are trying to write one line with the deep meaning and easy reading as the Quran but they fail to do so...

so i put forward this challange to you people also and all those who think islam is a stupified religion..write anything which can even match the meaning and depth of any line in the Quran if u can..you can read a few lines at this link...
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/055.qmt.html
when you read this please think logically about everyline and remember this book came 1400 years ago and is talking about things Science and Technology is descovering withen 5-6 years.(i Mentioned Science and Technology because its a major part in LeVay Satanists)



by the way Islam was not founded by Muhammad it was convayed by him..and secondly he only showed people the way of living and he followed the Quran as well...so the information on islam on this website is wrong
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/islam.html
you guys should try this website for more and accurate information on the Quran...i found it very useful on my research and believe it is a good Website to research Islam and in paticular Quran which is a book for all people not just Muslims
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/quranindex.html

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2006-09-02 08:49 pm (UTC)

What u r saying about other religion shows how stupid u your self are because you do not have respect for people therefpore people will not show you any respect. Besides you are using gutter language which no decent person will even bother to look at.I do not care what religin you follow but u sound like full of hate about other fellow humans. To cut the long story short u r basically an anti-christian -anti-muslim and anti-jewish human being and hence worse than an animal. Even animal in their animal kingdom do not hate other animals.You did not write this message because you wanted criticise muslims,you r here to find out how many muslims will respond to your gutter language criticm ? its a trap.and y r crap.

Re: what I think of the islam

(Anonymous)

2009-03-23 07:38 am (UTC)

"Malik as the keeper of hell"
Malik is only an angle not fire God. Understand in Islam there is only one God everything is what he created. Misunderstanding Islam will lead Islam as Evil but you have no idea what is the original teaching of Islam.

I would love to talk to you, raise your point for not being a Muslim and what is wrong with Islam? Disprove

faysal_10@hotmail.co.uk

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