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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: June 4th, 2004 05:38 pm (UTC) |
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WTF??
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Hello. I stumbled upon this website by accident, and am quite angry with myself for wasting the time necessary to read this. I'm not going to say that you're a sinner and are going to hell. Nobody is perfect, therefore everyone sins. Yet as christians, we believe in heaven. So therefor we must be saved not because we do not sin, but because we believe. BUT ANYWAY...
I wanted to reply to what i read. As a previous post mentioned, science is an everchanging study. If you believe that the bible has been rewriten and edited as I do, then you must believe that science, especially that of archeology, has been edited and restudied many times. Any rational person who believes in the bible does not always take it literally, just because of the number of times the book has been translated.
A man of science, however, would understand the 7th day resting period very easily, if I may take that as an example. To ask a mere human-being to believe that an all mighty being created all of the heavens and the earth is quite outrageous. If that human is strong enough to believe in that, then i think God makes it easy on us if he just gives us a simple reason why he wants us to take the 7th day as holy.
Another point: When God creates man, it sais that he does so in his likeness. Therefore WE as humans resemble God. So if i turn the question around to YOU the author, "If you had just finished creating the heavens and the earth, and it was good, wouldnt you take a moment to admire your creation?"
Tell me what you think...philgauthier12@hotmail.com
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: April 14th, 2007 07:35 am (UTC) |
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reply to this comment...
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"The Bible is to be TAKEN LITERALLY! It is either ALL TRUE or ALL FALSE."
Hi there,
I was reading all of these comments and I came across this one and I have to have my input here. I am a believer, and I agree that the Bible is eithe ALL TRUE or ALL FALSE, however, not everything in the Bible is to be taken literally. Take, for example, the "if your right hand causes you to sin, then remove it; for it is better to enter eternity without your right hand than it is to not enter eternity at all." As i guy, and as you are probably too, we both know that our right hand causes us to sin...but I am fairly certain that you have not removed it (nor have i). This is a classic example of the Bible and how it doesn't ONLY contain LITERAL truths, but also FIGURATIVE PARABLES and the such.
I am not coming down on you, i just need to make sure you dont limit the Bible to only being literal.
God bless you dude (or dudette) and keep searching and digging!
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: December 16th, 2004 02:20 am (UTC) |
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Re: 7 day creation myth
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I have to laugh at all of these outrageous comments. Are you people for real? The strength of science is that it is always changing. Nothing is set in stone. Science is alive, it is ever growing, it is not static. There are no absolutes in science, no absolute truth is possible because new and improved measurements, observations and experiments are constantly pushing science to a greater and improved understanding of our universe. As our instruments have improved we have developed the ability to see deeper into the universe. The ancients of course were only able to see the sun, the moon, 5 planets and maybe 5000 or so stars on a crystal clear night. There is no mention in the bible of the Milky Way Galaxy or of quasars, black holes, neutron stars, planetary nebula, white dwarf stars, or of hundreds of billions of other galaxies, etc. etc. etc. The earth was thought to be flat, with the sun, planets, and stars revolving around it. These "inspired" biblical writers were not even aware of Earths shape or that it revolved around the sun. Wow! Why don't you accept the flat earth, and geocentrism as fact too? Its in the bible. The fact is that you pick and choose the myths you want to believe. With lots of mental gymnastics, denials, counting the hits and ignoring the misses, you can justify your beliefs about anything. So why not a flat earth with its four corners? Why not put Earth at the center of the universe? Why not talking snakes, and donkeys and global floods and virgin births and humans coexisting with dinosaurs?
As for the plants surviving even 1 day without the sun. Ha! Ha! Ha! I don't know of too many plants that can survive temperatures of near absolute zero for even a few seconds let alone a day. The atmosphere and oceans would have been frozen as the Sun would not have existed to be warming them up. But of course this omnipotent God spent a day "breathing" on them while he figured out how to make the Sun. He/she/it just likes sitting around keeping plants warm. The fact that God is a male is a hoot in itself. Does he have sex with himself? Yes, it is time to do away with the Genesis myths. They are so fraught with errors, contradictions, catch 22's, absurdities and the like that I could write for days, as could any logical thinking adult, with a minimum of critical thinking skills. It is time to grow up and get real. Not one of you who wrote in defended the bible/Genesis myth with any evidence at all except to keep preaching with circular reasoning that the bible is true because it says it is true. Science does not have all the answers, like religions do, but what we don't know is growing smaller all the time. Substituting religious myths, on the other hand, for scientific evidence is nonsense. Creationism is pure and utter nonsense!!!! Please give me imperfect science, at least it can be mistaken and correct itself!! God has never corrected the bible.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: January 9th, 2006 06:27 pm (UTC) |
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subject heads suck
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hey.
so i read the text.
and then i read all the responses to it.
it's been humorous watching as christianity diffusion has become more and more popular, but i guess that's what it gets for being so popular, right?
i've noticed that in my groups of friends and on TV and on the radio and the internet a new trend is to attack the Bible and point out all that is wrong with it.
it's not hard to do, nor is it sticking your head out anymore.
so many people do it that it's not a big deal, and it's easy to do because if you keep on the single track running in your head and take it literally then obviously there will be some unresolved issues.
the idea that you attacked in the beginning about the formation of the earth is a good example of the literal thinking.
those are the kind of ideas that come out of limited contemplation.
the idea of "7 days" is a totally reasonable metaphore, to contradict you, and although I doubt that it was 7 24 hour periods, God can do anything he fucking wants and could very well have done it in 10 seconds if he tried.
the point is that when the story was written down, it was written as a metaphorical value, and in order to understand it, people just have to think outside their space for a minute or two. it's easier than bashing it.
the whole issue of attacking christianity is becoming tiring, and people like you think that you're some sort of tough renegade for attacking such a majority.
what you don't know is that for every bit of difficulty that you find in your path, staying a legitimate christian and keeping the even balance of defending your position and not being outspoken is ten times as hard.
especially with all the people who are joining in on the "cool" thing to do.
if people think they're so tough and bad ass then let's see them really attack something that they'll get the shit kicked out of them for.
i never hear anything about jew's, or muslims, or bhuddism, or the Tao.
i just read pieces of the Tao, and if you think that the problem with the Bible is the fact that it has nonsensical metaphors, then go back and read through the Tao and tell me that "A Master does nothing, yet leaves nothing undone," makes sense when you think literally.
Attacking christianity is getting old, and it always was done by people who are afraid of joining something that makes sense - who are afraid to live under a force that requires you to be a good person.
you have to answer for your actions eventually, so suck it up.
im not preaching, and im not saying you're a "sinner", and im just as irritated by those idiots who say you'll go to hell and you're a bad person, because they don't even really know you, and the only thing they're doing is proving that christians are judgemental and outspoken.
im not judging you, and im trying to keep an even keel.
i just stated what i thought.
and that is that raging on the Bible is lame now.
it's a trend.
and because it's so old, no one cares.
lets see you post a site about how the religions in africa are bad because they kill each other and eat wierd things.
you can't.
so why is it ok to do it to christianity?
because it's old, and it's strong, and the people who diss it grab ahold of the same things, like the crusades and hitler, both of which are dead.
it's a waste of time what you wrote.
but it was interesting, even though i've read it from countless others.
thanks.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: August 20th, 2006 05:17 pm (UTC) |
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The Observations of Moses
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Those that try to compare creationism with evolution do not
understand the facts. Creationism is the undisciplined doctrine
that the Holy Bible (Genesis) teaches how God created the Earth.
That is false. There are no “creation accounts” in Genesis, as
stated by the “foremost terrestrial authority” on the book. Genesis
states that God created our universe, but it does not give us details
on the process. The Bible only gives us the amount of time
(144 hours) it took to complete. What we can gather is that the
supernatural realm, gave birth to our natural existence, about 4.6
billion years ago.
What Genesis does give us is what we will call the Observations
of Moses (OM). God showed Moses, on Mt. Sinai in 1598 BC,
six days from the ancient past which Moses would later write
down (or have written) in the book of Genesis. Theology
mistakenly calls them the “Six Days of Creation”, but that too is
false, because bible scholars, other creationists, and theologians
do not understand the text, and have misled mankind into thinking
that early Genesis is just “folklore”.
What mankind in general does not know is that God was defining
geologic time to Moses, but Moses did not understand. Centuries
before mankind discovered the fossil record (of death), and the
notion of the Geologic Time Scale, the only account of prehistoric
history was given to the chosen nation of Israel. God did not show
Moses how the sphere of outer space and our Earth were created,
but showed him one day from each of the different past geologic
ages of time, as defined by God, in biblical order…, not
chronological order.
Science teachers are required to learn and teach their students the
suppositions of biological and stellar evolution, and exclude what
is taught in Genesis. Why? Is it because there is no evidence?
They can’t say that, because Genesis reveals the previous living
existence of fossils of the life forms that mankind would later find
in the geologic strata, and also declares the existence of life forms
that have not yet been discovered, such as prehistoric mankind of
20+ million years ago.
The Observations of Moses tell us that God created different life
forms on Earth in each of seven different geologic ages in which
He defines. The Eternal Spirit allowed Moses to be the only
modern human to see those prehistoric animals, living as they
were in the geologic age in which they lived on Earth. This is
why there are no “transitional forms”, because when a total
extinction occurred to all surface life, God would created new
life forms out of the ground to replace them, after an interval
of time.
Every state governor and their educational supervising
administrators were contacted in the fall of 2005 about this.
Yet none of them have taken any step to secure training for their
teachers. They continue to allow indoctrination of their students
in the prejudice of secular science, which refuses to investigate the
reality of our origins. A twelve hour course is available for science
teachers in order to help them to give a more balanced education to
their students.
If we learn nothing else, please be advised that there is no such
controversy between evolution and creationism. The correct
“match ups” are the combined theories of both the Big Bang and
Nebular Breakdown against Biblical Creation, and also evolution
against the Observations of Moses. With the discovery of
extra-solar planets, the Nebular theory has fallen out of favor.
Perhaps with future discoveries, other current unrealistic theories
will be discarded as well.
Herman Cummings
PO Box 1745
Fortson GA, 31808
Ephraim7@aol.com
(706) 662-2893
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uncomfortable
I agree