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Theodicy essays

"The Problem of Evil: Why Would a Good God Create Suffering?" by Vexen Crabtree (2002)

Re: Excellent

(Anonymous)

2007-12-15 01:03 am (UTC)

"I do hope, though, that by showing that the world is neither consistent with an all-powerful good god or with an all-powerful evil god, that I have highlighted better the reality that either a good God or an evil God doesn't exist!"

No, that is not entirely correct.

The presence of evil in this world speaks against the existence of a 100% good omnipotent god but the presence of good does NOT speak against the existence of an omnipotent evil god. Why? Because an evil god can still coexist with the presence of 'good' in this world and at the same time be considered evil but not the other way around.

An omnipotent good god that tolerates some evil is not good by human definition. It is merely a neutral god, neither good nor bad.

The jews in reality believe in a neutral god. He can be good at times but can also be incredibly gruesome like when he kills men, women and children with plague or let the babylonians burn jerusalem to ashes.

The weird thing is that the christians claim to believe in the same god but at the same time ignore the numerous atrocities commited in the old testament. That and many other contradictions is the reason I can never be a christian, at least in the traditional sense.

If god exists he must either evil, neutral(indifferent?) or somewhere in between.

Re: Excellent

(Anonymous)

2007-12-15 08:42 pm (UTC)

"The presence of evil in this world speaks against the existence of a 100% good omnipotent god but the presence of good does NOT speak against the existence of an omnipotent evil god. Why? Because an evil god can still coexist with the presence of 'good' in this world and at the same time be considered evil but not the other way around"

The presence of evil speaks against weather the god is good or omnipotent not both. Either the good is not good, thus evil exesits, or It is good but does not have the power to stop evil.

So,an evil god can coexisting with the presence of 'good' in this world but it would not be omnipotent just like a good god.






Re: Excellent

(Anonymous)

2007-12-23 05:58 pm (UTC)

You assume that an evil omnipotent god has a compulsive desire to destroy all good in the world. This is not so.

Such a god might let a few good things be in the world simply because he just don't care. Or he maybe he likes toying around with them, who knows. But it doesn't make him less evil.

All this does not contradict the presence of an omnipotent evil god.

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