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| From: (Anonymous) |
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December 27th, 2004 09:15 pm (UTC)
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Re: True Anglicanism Isn't 'Liberal'
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Gee, I'm one of those American "fundamentalist" born-again Christians and I AM NOT aligned with the world (most are not ... if they are true Christians). And the previous writer is correct ... God will destroy a liberal, non-Bible-Based church ... i.e., the Church of England and the Catholic Church is not far behind, as many others. As Jesus warns about the latter days, watch for the apostate church age, as this will be a sign of the coming of the end-times. Sadly, we are in the Apostate Church age ... you know, the one Jesus will spit out of his mouth. As Jesus/God states in the Bible in Revelations, speaking to the church you mentioned above, "I will spit you out of my mouth, for you are neither hot nor cold." The type of church YOU want is completely vile to God/Jesus. If a church is not full of born-again Bible-Believing/Teaching, Christ following people, God has total disdain for it and will destroy it. It just proves that God is in control and His Word (the Bible) is true and eternal. The world and people like you just keep on proving it! I pray for you! :>
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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March 26th, 2004 10:17 am (UTC)
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Fundamentalism
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WCCC (World Conquerors Christian Centre),a fundamentalist, evangelical, pentecostal church, Lorne Street, Leith , Edinburgh, is run by Pastor Climate Irungu and his wife Jennifer. He is not qualified, and his church is not recognised by any ecclesiastical authority. His church does not give members access to financial accounts. Pastor Climate is a Satanist and devil-worshipper. His satanic rites can be witnessed in public at the car park on the top of Calton Hill, Edinburgh, on the last Friday of each month, generally between 2200 hours and 0100 hours. These rites are certainly not Christian, neither are they Biblical.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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May 18th, 2004 06:32 am (UTC)
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Tolerance?
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Dear Vexen,
In your article on growing fundamentalism in the west you say that the solutions to this problem are:
Opposition and closing of faith schools
Removal of religion-specific legal rights
Heavy promotion of scientific education
Raising awareness of the threat of fundamentalism growing from within the Anglican communion
Support of gay tolerance (to show up the immorality of fundamentalists)
Removal of religious pathways of power
I believe that these supposed solutions are far more draconian, discriminatory and harmful than anything that conservative evangelicals would ever recommend.
To tolerate something is to put up with it, not act differently towards it, even though you know it to be wrong.
If you were tolerant you would accept what you call 'fundamentalism'. 'Fundamentalist' Christians believe that homosexuality is not God's plan for human sexuality and thus wrong; it isn't any more morally deplorable than things acts (or attitudes of the heart) like theft, lying, and rebelling against God in other ways, and so on and so on. We do not believe that homosexuals are any more sinful than the rest of humanity. But you seem to think that fundamentalists are intolerant because they think a position you hold is wrong. That's not intolerance, it's remaining firm to one's convictions.
If you really advocated tolerance then you would not hold the opinions you do. As it is, you are intolerant of anyone who disagrees with you and thus you undermine your own position.
I believe that we should all have the legal right to freedom of religion and belief, but it is a fact that only some people will be right. We cannot all be, can we? If we can, then I have just as much right to advocate my beliefs as you do yours.
Please be consistent and wake up to cool crisp logic.
David Potter
davidjamespotter@hotmail.com
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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July 7th, 2004 12:47 am (UTC)
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Re: WCCC
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i came to wccc 2 years ago, i was nobody ,i did have sense of direction. but since i joined to wccc my life has changed, i have understanding, i was poor i could not even support all my self, but now am one of the prime people in the city of Edinburgh.Pastor Climate preaches one doctrine and that is the Bible. about the Communion, you ask anybody or come to our church every end of the month Friday 7.00pm or call the church prayer centre and you will find we have communions every time, even now we having early morning prayer 6:15, and every monday we have communion. Pastor Climate ambition is not just to own private Jet is Ambition is to win souls. Just like other international preachers Jet is a tool to reach as many souls as you can and to protect the anointing. it seems to me all critics of Wccc are failures, right now struggling in thier lives.
there is a big evidence the anointing of Healing and prosperity upon pastor climate. so be careful don't open your mouth were pastor climate is concerned i have not seen any one who has raised against p.climate & jennifer without severly punished by God, i think P.Climate is God's favourite Because of his obedience Read this "Do not touch my anointed ones;do my prophets no harm." He called down famine on the land and destroyed all their supplies of food; ( Ps 105 ;15-16) be careful brother dont play with fire. i know it i have tried it, and now i am back to wccc in full swing and am blessed than never before.
i know right now you are struggling in your life, come back.
if not watch us fly high, i dont care about the offering it is not my Job it is the Adminstrators Job, there no where in the bible says you must know what the priest does with the offering, infact cursed are who try to.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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September 20th, 2004 07:15 am (UTC)
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Re: WCCC
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This is a very silly website well i have no time for pastor climate debate or wccc. My eyes and my focus as a christian are on God, upon Jesus, so this is all a little matter and nonsense.
However, I hav been to world conquerors and I personally witnessed pure evil there I saw it and heard it with my own eyes and ears. So God told me to flee that place! And I did as I was told.
All the brothers sisters who come out of wccc saying "Oh you are a failure you left wcc you are a loser in Christ"
I have this to say to their argument?brainwashing twaddle basically!
Jesus loves everyone! Especially the failures and losers and sinners and drop-outs! Read your bible people he sat on the road and broke bread with the possessed, the prostitutes. So if thats your argument Im pleased and proud to be a failure if thats what you think of people who escape Wccc! Because Jesus loves me as I am and I love Jesus! Amen.
Now, I got told by a brother all sorts of stuff about Pastor Climate after Id left of my own common sense. He said the pastor and agroup of devotees drove to his house, stole his passport and hundreds of pounds from his church collection. He said voodoo and evil was being done. That the pastor was sleeping with the women and he had another wife in London and was all crooked ways.
This fellow at first I believed he was in such a nervous breakdown mess. Now he back at Wccc and is one of the main men? Now who is the crook? Even a pig does not return to its own vomit.
So to see and know dishonesty and corruption in the house of god, but to know and return and be part of......?
Im afraid I cannot be swayed or impressed by big tacky white limos and sky tv. Wot is that? The pastor preaches tv evil corrupt of devil? then he on all the time?!
We must hav a sense of humour this is true children of God.
Seriously, I have asked wise ministers and pastors about this place. They say this thing, with religion there s always money to be made.
I hav asked and prayed to God for guidance and wisdom, the oly reason I take my time to add comment to this site this day a message I receive strongly:
God tells us in the bible all is heard and seen nothing is hidden, your right hand knows what the left is doing.even whispers in secret ina closet are heard by God."Not everyone that saith unto me Lord Lord shall enter into the Kingdom of Heaven"
"Many will say to me on that day Lord Lord have we not prophesised in thy name? and in thy name cast out devils?and in thy name done many wonderous things?
And then I will profess unto thee I never knew thee. Depart from me ye that work iniquity".
Be Blessed.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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August 29th, 2009 06:06 pm (UTC)
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Re: WCCC
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No1 you all got it wrong, bishop climate irungu is not a kenya actually he is an american, born in virginia but his parents are from Africa,climate was not in UK in 1995 he was in Iraq Serving in the USA Army, His unit was based in Fort Belvior- Virginia county, he was sergent he served in my regiment of Logistics and Technology Enterprise Systems and Services (ALTESS) he left 1997 after 3 yrs of military service. to UK, according UK government report to our base he was held on custody for kidnap & illegial weapons and street fight, the case was dropped for lack off evidence. it really suddens me for people who will say things about a man that they dont know, He is now a changed man and changing the world, as his former boss am proud of him and may God bless him and his ministry
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date:
December 13th, 2004 10:48 am (UTC)
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Spiritual Britain worships over 170 different faiths
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Spiritual Britain worships over 170 different faiths
Telegraph.co.uk, UK - 9 hours ago
... Also strongly represented are the Jehovah's Witnesses with 70,651 adherents, and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormons), with 12,722. ...
Harmless religion or destructive cult,how do you tell?
The deadbeat Watchtower corporation pays no municipal taxes on their buildings,without even one charity to compensate the community.
Jehovah's Witnesses beliefs and who are they?
The Watchtower is big money, being one of the top 40 New York City Corporations making nearly one billion dollars a year. That’s just from one of their many corporations.
Unlike in the case of Christians who are persecuted in other lands for talking about Jesus Christ, Jehovah’s Witnesses are largely persecuted for following the teachings begun during the second presidency of the Watchtower, when Joseph F. Rutherford took over in a corporate flap and began changing doctrines quickly in the Watchtower belief system. He claimed that angels directly conveyed “truth” to some of those in leadership. He coined the name “Jehovah’s Witnesses” to make them stand out from being witnesses of Jesus, a typical evangelical expression (and a Biblical one).
Rutherford dumped holidays, birthdays and the 1874 date for the invisible return on Christ, and invented an “earthly class” of Witnesses, since only 144,000 can go to heaven in their teaching. The rest, meaning all 99.9% of Witnesses still alive, will live forever on a cleansed earth, under the rule of the Watchtower leaders in heaven, who will keep them in line by local elders known as “Princes.”
If you have been “witnessed to” by Jehovah’s Witnesses and you reject their message, you will likely die “shortly” at Armageddon with all the other non-Witnesses, since theirs is the only true religion, and (if they can live up to all the rules) they are the only ones to inhabit this “new earth.” If you believe Witnesses seem rigid now, any non-conformist during the future “cleansed earth” will be directly destroyed by Jehovah. Even now a Witness will be disfellowshipped for any one of many gaffs, such as smoking, taking a blood transfusion, or even voting.
To even vocally question the teachings of the Watchtower will result in complete cutting off, with family and friends usually being forbidden to talk to them. The Watchtower is a truly Orwellian world, in a time when Orwellian societies are nearly obsolete.
By their own Yearbook accounts, Witnesses are shrinking in number in many Western countries as of the last three years, as the internet facilitates the spread of information (much of it critical of the Witnesses). Witnesses are cautioned against creating JW-related websites, largely to prevent their members from discovering the history and dirty laundry of this organization on other websites. (There are literally hundreds of former members pages in many languages.) The Watchtower strives hard to control the flow of information to the individual Witness, and prefers that all instruction come through the magazines they carry door-to-door. Without this form of control, even as they themselves admit, they would believe just the same as other Bible believers.
Sincerely,
Danny Haszard
References:
www.freeminds.org (type in a search word to find articles easily)
www.silentlambs.org (latest news on the child abuse lawsuits against the Watchtower)
About the author Danny Haszard: Former Jehovah's Witness X 33 years and 3rd generation (been there). Now a counter-cult educator. My home page, WATCHTOWER WHISTLEBLOWER: http://www.DannyHaszard.com
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date:
December 23rd, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
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Christian Fundamentalism cannot be understood without neo-colonialism
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I'm a Sri Lankan and a Buddhist. Christian fundamentalism in Sri Lanka is very active. Various Christian Fundamentalist groups are working for the so-called wellfare of general Buddhist people and convert them into Christianity un-ethically. This un-ethical and sometimes forcible conversion was starter by Pourtugese , Dutch and English in the Colonial Era. Therefore , according to my view , there is a close link between colonialism and Christian Fundamentalism.
What's happening on present days ? There is a large process of neo-colonialism. The western world is trying to hold their power in Socio-econimic and cultural factors of Eastern Countries. The process is given a sweet and attractive name "Globalisation". I dare say that the word "Global Village" directly refers to the neo-colonial society , which is Christian in culture. (Though Liberals and Communists oppose Christian Fundamentalism , they are also Christian in culture. ) . Christian Fundamentalism held by various Christian Churches , in only a part of it. Sometimes , Christian Churches in Europian countries are trying to persuade their governments to get involved in this process. (U.S. attacking Iraq is also a part of that.)
Therefore in conclusion , let me say that Christian Fundamentalism is not an independant matter , but only a part of a big neo-colonial matter.
- Buddhika Thambugala
In any long criticism , please e-mail me to (tabkthambugala@sinhalaya.com)
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