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Why do people hate America? A summary of anti-Americanism

Why do people hate America? A summary of anti-Americanism



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interesting.. haven't read it all yet, but i thought i'd play the devil's advocate on the last sentence: "North America is a great nation"? i didn't realise the US had finally united with Canada and Mexico!

heh. but, if that were the only comment i put, that would unfairly devalue yr essay, i think.

so, check out this site; it'll give you one view on America, especially the articles on sept. 11th on the first page ("left-wing anarchist propaganda" :)

& yr essay was definately informative, a nice collection of quotes and points. I'll read more sometime, when it's not 1am...

Hi! Thanks!

And... good point!

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I think what you're writing here is very well done...I hope that much Americans and also other people read this...I've been on different fora where there are many Americans, I always tried to say them(in a non-agressive manner) that America wasn't perfect but they always imediately said I was an 'America-basher'... A very good and neutral view...

...In the United States, there has been a recent social shift to a new concept of side-ism. It's becoming a matter of a person either being on a particular side or not. You can be on the terrorist's side or on our side. You can be on the communist's side or on our side. The accusations are endless. The grey area of geo-politics has now been wiped clean with only a yes or no demographic that can somehow be used to indicate a person's loyalties.

This is becoming the primary problem, in my opinion. Before the current administration and the events of 9/11 and whatnot, it would be perfectly acceptable to criticize a particular issue of foreign policy as an American. Now, however, with the new social concept (as aforementioned) as the dominant popular attitudes, little criticism can be listened to and understood without a person's loyalties becoming suspect.

Personally, I feel the United States has slipped up most recently with it's rationale for invading Iraq and threats towards other Middle-Eastern nations or similar rogue states. Even in Afganistan the US may have done a lot more harm then good to the nation even with ousting the Taliban. I'd say the blatant hypocrisy of US foreign policy is what offends me the most. While it's all well and good to say that life for women in Iraq is better now with the US occupation, what's that to say about Saudi Arabia or Kuwait where the conditions there are just as bad? Our what about nations like Indonesia or Libya, where their governments are now moving towards more progressive and unified societies, but still suffer from the general distrust and open threats from the Unites States due to a few petty trade disputes?

Furthermore, not wanting to make this topid entirely political, but the hypocrisy in the US media is equally disturbing. Shock-talk pundits like Anne Coulter or Bill O'Reilly have no problem criticising my country (Canada) for failing to join in on the war effort in Iraq, but completely fail to comment on our commitments in Afganistan, the Balkans, or even the recent rescue operations in Louisianna.The innane dribble that passes for political insight astounds me at times.

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The land of ignorance and hypocrisy

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What terrifies me most about America is the lack of "freedom", the lack of "democracy", and the lack of "free speech" Americans really have.

Anyone brave enough to point out the “cause” of terrorism have simply been told they are “un-American”, a “traitor” (or worse).

So the silence continues.. and the frustration about U.S. injustices and hypocrisy around the world grows and grows until it literally explodes.

Sept 11th was just the beginning America.

The best (and only) way to regain real security in your own homes and overseas is to demand YOUR government cease propping up corrupt governments/dictators and oppressing people who have a right to run their countries the way THEY wish, whether it's in "America's (corporate) interest" or not.

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Fucking right man. America is a joke. Hell America was founded by terrorists. But most Americans are ignorant to that fact. Just go check out

http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/propagandhi/ideas.shtml

for more evidence of how retarded America is.

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I did not enjoy reading your completly biased and ignorant essay. Most of it was arrogance translated into hatred of the outside world that sees America for what it is. An arrogant, ignorant country that believes that it is the "police" of the world. US Foriegn Policy has killed literally millions of people all over the world in the last 200 years. 5,000 is a pitiful number beside the tens of thousands of dead children, if not women and men who were completly innocent. I support the use of force to give America a kick in the face to realise what the world thinks of them. In this two-sided war, I am against America. Forget the Muslims because they didn't do this for Islam you pathetic corporate assholes.

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Real keen words coming from a weenie communist who accuses others of "bias".Communists like this piece of shit kowtowed to mass-murderers like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and so on in the 'humane' cause of socialism and anti-Americanism. I have yet to read just one of these anti-American twits who claim that US Foreign "has literally killed millions of people all over the world" give a glimmer of outcry about the ones murdered by international socialism. We fat hillbilly Yanks were just doing fine and minding our own business until *sophistocated* European foreign policy drug us into two world wars. My personal sentiments are that after the fall of Berlin in '45 we should had pulled every American soldier from continental Europe and let Stalin have it all. This would REALLY give sanctimonious cry-babies something to castigate 'US foreign policy' about, wouldn't it?

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HEY MA WHATS THIS.
HAVENT U FROGOTTEN THE OIL EXPLOITATION BY THE AMERICANS. BLAINTLY ROBBING THE POORER COUNTRIES. EG FYFFES, NIKE, GAP,ESSO, THE LIST GOES ON . i HAV TO SAY FROM AN AMERICAN POINT OF VIEW THE AMERICAN GOV ARE REALLY AND QUITE HONESTLY A BUNCH OF BULLIES!
tHE AMERICNS ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES WHO HAV OFFERED GREAT TECHNOLOGY SO HAV OTHER NATIONS AND COUNTRIES
AND PLEAZ OFFER EXAMPLES OF THESE TECHNOLOGIES AND STUFF.
And pleaz cmon u cant jus look at the western media try other news agencies.
my mate who works for fox news told me that the us gov is not allowing any true news being sent to home cos it may dent the countries morale.
And a matter of fact we must get the hell out of afg cos he told me that about 20 US soldiers are killed per day. Since the moslems are not buried in coffins but in some cloth, but despite the fact 20 coffins are on average sent to the jacodabad bease.
ANYWAY SEE YA MAN ANON FROM EXPAT IN UK FROM US
BYE

ya!!!

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NO SHIT ASSHOLE YOUR ESSAY DOES NOT HAVE ANY FACTS, JUST WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR TV.. i GEUSS IT ALL YOU FAGS HAVE LEFT eh!!!!!!!!

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I'd rather be flagburning

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Why are anti-americans not allowed to post here? Wouldn't it be a good idea if those people could express their thoughts here in a serious way? Of course, I am one of these people, and even though you say you don't want my opinion, it may be helpfull in understanding at least me.

Some points that disgust me about The United States of America;

1: Capitalism, of course. All socialists take a great disliking towards america since this is the land we're capitalism is the roots to everything. "Land of The Free" is what the country is called, which always mean "free" as in "free market" hence capitalism is what makes your country what it is. i am well aware of the fact that a capitalistic, conservative land like yours can live with it. It's just that noone in america sees what the ideology does to your land. Noone in america seems to care in the least about the workers and minorities. This could go on forever, but I guess you already can see what I'm getting at.

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Capitalism comes the fact that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, in The U.S. is allowed life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. As long as this happiness is not infringed on by someone else in a deadly manner, ie, drunk driving and the like.

That means that you, I, Joe-schmo down the street can start a buisiness and YES we get lots 'o tax breaks to start companies. This business can blossom and go corporate- or stay small. Depends on what your business is.

Another thing is that in our country if you want to survive you HAVE to serve your fellow man. You can open a restraunt, but if you don't have good food and service, chances are, you're going to go belly up. So Restraunts offer up good food and good service. Unless you go go a truck stop..then you get what you can take ^.^

It's been said that the US should just stay out of foreign countries- then how about we take back our billions in foreign aid? And how about we disallow foreigners to start businesses here or get green cards? They should run their country how THEY see fit?! Then we'll run our country how WE see fit- and I wouldn't worry about it- our smog doesn't reach over the Atlantic Ocean.

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2: Fundamentalism. Religion is very important for America, with god-bless and all that. Even though other religions are allowed, white america seems to me extremely right-wing, and extremely christian. When you put military bases in muslim holy lands, it's very disrespectful to their history, but that I don't really care about. muslims should discard religion as well as you should. If you want to know why, ask any ateist like myself. I really don't have the time to say everything that could be said. go to http://www.punkbands.com/propagandhi and find out for yourself in the essay "Religion? No Thanks."

3: Ignorance. Vietnam for instance, is not a country with history and all to you. Instead, it's just a place goodhearted americans went to fight off the threath that is communism. For an american, nothing exists besides america. To you, America is the centre of the world, and your couldn't care less about other countries and their people. What USA wants is a conservative system where all countries more or less obey them, and capitalism is global.

My friend tried to travel to america to study there for a year or so, and when the authorities found out he was a member of the swedish youth communist party, he was denied access to the land of the free because of his opinions. So was an entire anarchist family i know.

Just out of curiosity...

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<<My friend tried to travel to america to study there for a year or so, and when the authorities found out he was a member of the swedish youth communist party, he was denied access to the land of the free because of his opinions. So was an entire anarchist family i know.

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I'm wondering why a "young communist" and family of anarchists want to go to a country you hate. Seems like of schitzophrenic to me. So why is that?

And one other question, while we're in the neighborhood: in that "entire anarchist family," are the toddlers anarchists as well? (I sure hope they weren't going to Disneyland!)

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An american to me is a white, religious male. A lobbyist perhaps, at least he is (on a european scale) incredibly conservative on the verge of neo-liberalism. He lives his ignorant life in a country where every leads a good life (at least according to what he sees. Minorities are hardly considered to belong to the human species.) When the tragedy at september 11th occurs. Yes it was a tragedy. Back then. Then came your actions towards the afghan civilians. We will forever be reminded of the WTC terror attack where 3500 died, for hundred of years at least, but we will never in the least mourn the double amount of afghan casualties, nor will we be reminded by you about vietnam, panama, yugoslavia etc. etc. etc. etc. etc... USA kills innocents every day. Americans don't know until the vengeance strikes at them, and then they see it at an unprovoced attack, and all arabs are beardwearing, pro-taliban, allah-worshipping, camel-fucking towelheads, and should be put to death.

And all the time, the american lives his life just like the day before without knowing of poverty, infanticide, or the tremendous amount of hate which is aimed at the country he lives in, from the corners of the globe. to him, america is the greatest, helping every less fortunate country with problem that is socialism. socialism in which the root of all ideas is equal values and rights. I'm not saying everyone should be socialists like I am (Beautiful thought) all that i am saying is that you should stop regarding socialism, anarchism, and communism as af we socialist were some kind of goddamn nazis.

i can understand why people like you can live your lives without caring about the rest of the world, and i can even understand how a conservative mind works. and its really bothersome. It can all be summed up in one word; egoism.

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I am 13 yaers old and I already posted something. I hadn't read everything you had written yet. I'd like to say your stereotype of America is really wrong. I have been living here fo rlong enough to know that there might be one person in America like that. TO say that were all born-again Christians is justwrong. I would never be a born again-christian. Infact I'm Jewish. Also the idea that we don't even notice poverty is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard. I can't just not aknowledge it like you say I don't. The truth is many people I go to school with are in poverty. I find the way you say that we think nothing of it is horrible. I know that most people I know help out all the time at food pantries and charities. I could right about that for pages, but I have to do my math Homework. I also go to a school where as a white I am a minority. These obviously menas I recognize that there are minorities all the time. The idea that Americans don't is almost hilarious. Just the idea that people think we don't recognize them is almost funny. You really don't know America very well do you.

America "leave the world alone"

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I cant stand the way the Americans are using the Middle eastern nations for cheap oil. George Bush recently commented that people hated America because terrorism stood against the values of freedom and democracy that the STATES claimed to have. How can the rest of the world become independent, because whenever a country tries to rise - America shuts its down by using propoganga against it and finally 'moves in for the kill.' Look at Iran, look at the whole Gulf. All that just for Oil. How many people have to die. Osama Bin laden, Mullar Omar, they may be considered as terrorists; but when u think about it, what they were doing was a much more leanient version of what America was doing. I do console with the loss of life at the trade center attack. But as far as sympathy is involved, I show no sympathy for the American people. Finally the war is brought to their doors steps instead of other innocent regions around the world.Although a lot of people died, the ignorant Americans had to get a wake up call to know what was happening. Now, much more Americans research and try to find out whats going on beyond their borders and thats a step forward. It may have been a fatal expression to spread their views, however the terrorists I think paid the Americans back a small percentage of what they desreved. Hate is bad, but you have to look beyond that. What caused hate to be formed. What caused Terrorism to be created. Surely, there cannot be so many derranged indeviduals out there. America, you've made these people. You paid for Osama Bin laden to be armed and trained. After the September 11th bombing. Deal with it in ur own internal way. Leave the rest of the world out of ur phoney escapades!!!

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It's all for your cheap oil, dumbass. The US only imports 12% of its oil from the middle east, Europe and Japan import most of their oil from the middle east. We became involved militarily in the middle east after Iraq invaded Kuwait and threatened Saudi Arabia's oil - as much to keep the oil flowing as to prevent the destabilization that would occur if Europe and Japan felt the need to guarantee their own oil supplies.

USA! USA!

(Anonymous)
I must say that I thought your essay was quite informative. Althought I did not agree with every thing you said (I am an american after all) Many parts of it did make me think. Keep up the good work

Kristopher Gutierrez
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Too apologetic, obscures your argument.

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I'm English too, so I understand the guilt culture as well, but you shouldn't have let this obscure and influence your essay. You were, I think, laying off the US a bit because of this guilt, but the fact is the country is almost universally hated and with good reason. The sad thing is that history is written by the winners and the many human rights atrocoties committed by the US will go unremembered in history. I have no sympathy with terrorists, anyone who uses violence to put a point across is a cunt in my eyes, be they white, black, brown or green, but the fact that the US can not understand why anyone would attack it...that's ignorent and dangerous. I believe Bush made a very glib, "we are the good guys" comment after the tragedy, and the world looked at the inbred fuck with disbelief. I don't hate American, but i hate their beliefs, their arrogence, their flag-waving religious fervor and the fact that a lot of Americans see the words "God" and "Freedom" as synonomous with the word America. The constitution continues to be bastardised, and the average Western European has many more basic freedoms, guarenteed or not, then Americans ever will.

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is that mean they can controlled other policy.

the reason why we hate US is the thing they do, they act like a peace maker in the world, they controlled other to do this and not to do this, they thing they are right, they don't know us, we are happy to live in china, other developing country want develop and they say it make polution, the most polution is made from US, nuclear bomb, factory in the past, they developed on don't let other developed, they are selfish.

"they thing they are right, they don't know us" -- You do not know every american either.

die america die

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I hate america becase i live next door! I am a canaian, and we forgive by nature. BUT, I can tell you this.

I have to watch american news everyday. I see how and why over 1/3 of the world hates the U.S.. And why that number rises more everyday. They boost that they value freedom above all else. Yet they enforce more retrictions on freedom, then any other country in the world. Like their freedom of speech, (Say what you what as lond as it been passed by a censor), or when they say they are fighting for freedom, and send thier "Peace Keepers" to other countries, to enforce american freedom, (by Distroying thier culture and way of life). they do this to everyone,including the country that support them. here in canada, we can't go to the u.s. without out vigoruos screening and a 5000 word essay on why i love america,(not really, but might as well, it would be faster), then once there pay lot's of money for nothing (including thier taxes) just to pay more to get it back into canada. But they can come here and pay little for lots, then get what they payed in taxes here back. and when we try to make money off them, they put tariffs, and embargo's on all our exports. But for some reson we call it free trade, they call us their bitch.

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Dear Canadian,
Did not your people join in the french and indian wars to rape , scalp, and kill those who fought and carved out these united states, and do not your fellow countrymen frequently cross that most unsavory border to get treatment and surgeries that your so-called socialist medical system cannot deliver?
As for your english, sir , I suggest you buy a copy of the Oxford Dictionary.

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die america die

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well, let's see this is what they do to their naighbor's and not one of them see's it. Well not true!!!! There have been reports that militant group inside the u.s. have tripled since oklahoma bombing and will continue to grow. the hate them self and are crusing for self distruction. Thats why i just sit and wait...in 10 years we will not have to deal with them anymore, because they will have pissed off to many of their own to worry about OSAMA terorising them, they will do it them selves

oh and by the way wait 10 more months, and watch the NEW FOUND american togtherness fall, their self-distrutiveness risie and distroy them, and the funny thing is.... they take us all down with them.... i say fuck it let them kill them selves... all osama did is delay the inevitable.

egadnob69@hotmail.com

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Hey Canuck! You are perhaps the most ill informed anti-American moron that I have ever read a post from, and there are several to select from. Without your hated neighbor to the south of you Canada would also go under promptly given that you are totally dependent on trade from the USA. Canadian nationalists like you can only define their pitiful country with anti-Americanism for the sake of it. If you claim in 10 years we will be finished - so will you. Canada will no longer have an economy to mooch from and you little socialist hypocrites will be back into the Stone Age. Hahaha!! Dumb ass!

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I'd still rather be flagburning

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You say the american government is like a child, and I couldn't agree more. The whole nation is immature and egoistic, like a fucking 5-year old. Why then should America be so powerfull? Is it good to have a fucking retard like bush controlling the world? That's what makes the USA do shitty things, and that's what makes me hate all of america.
And the constant war on communism... Try to realize REAL communists hate Pol Pot, Josef Stalin and all those fuckheads. They we're class traitors, and used socialism for their own purpose; greed.

Of course, I can't hate all citizens of the US. There are lots of good natured socialists there too, and OK liberals. I'd say we get them outta there and then blast it all the fuck.

INTERESTING FACT:

I'm not sure of the exact number, but...
During the Vietnam war, lots of american men we're killed.

But that number is not as great as the number of women who we're beaten to death in their homes by american men in the same ammount of time.

This is a fact, and it proves american men in general are ignorant wife-beating assholes, and that they should be put to death

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If you are going to make such inflamitory claims you should site specific sources. The tone of language you use makes you not a socialist but a facist. To all that hate what the US stands for: join your brethern in the Middle East. You won't be gone all that long before you come back as reformed realists.

Preachin'

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This is pitiful. Why do you people always leave out rational thought along with the "fuck America" bit? I'm tired of all the garbage from pimply-faced teenage anarchists groaning about repression and jumping on the rebellion bandwagon.

You bitch and moan about American arrogance in all their comments, but all of your poorly executed posts reek with the same stench of pompousness.

I've known for years that America is an object of worldwide hatred. I know many reasons for it. America is a highly dysfunctional nation, but so are basically every other sovereign state on the face of the planet. It's a given.

Corporate greed has created the world we live in. All of our luxuries and comforts stem from it. The internet that lets you freely spend your free time typing clumsily about your hatred for the U.S. instead of spending your time herding goats in the foothills is a gift from international conglomeration.

Freedom of speech is alive and well. You're allowed to say anything you want criticizing the government, and anybody else can do the same to you. Peer pressure is different from restriction of rights here. Right-wing parties flourish because the majority support them. Citizens vote for who they like, and they dont like the left. It's as simple as that.

Religious fervor is constant because of the hostory of the U.S. While the Pilgrims and Puritans weren't the only ones coming to America, they established ways of life in the colonies that lasted all through British rule. And old habits die hard.

Minorities are worse of then the majority, but thats the way it is. Most other countries are almost entirely homogeonous in their racial mix. We have to deal with more immigration and culture clash than any other. Minorities often play the victim here, and many refuse to integrate. And most companies don't hire those without a basic grasp of English.


Precisely, blanket statements of hatred only fester more hatred. I have no illusions of our government, we have done horrible, wrong and ignorant things and will continue to do so, more or less than any other given country. No nation can claim to be perfect, America is far from it but we're still human and can you blame us if we still love our country? The majority of Americans are good, hardworking and intelligent, you can't let the bad ones mar your view of everyone else.

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If you want to hate American government fine. Bush is a fucking moron. But don't hate an entire nation's people just for being born there. Many MANY people don't sanction what their government does, but it can't really be helped since the big corporations are what put Bush in power in the first place.

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*sighs*

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Well.

I am american. I dislike a lot of what our country stands for. However, it is just that. A country. If you wish to hate someone, hate our GOVERMENT. Not our land. In my opinion, it is our goverment that is the one that should be hated. God knows I hate them for the things they do and did. But why do you hate the actual land, and things we stand for? Do you hate americans in general? I've been outside of america once, So I might lead a sheltered life. However, I also think that two wrongs do not make a right. But if that is your thinking, I should hate your countrys for the things you are doing now. Even though you are only a select group of people. *shrugs* OOPS! You just falsely represented your country. I hate you now. *rolls eyes*..

I must agree: George Bush is a complete retard. For christ sake, he choked on a fuckin' pretzel..

Welp, I guess all I'm trying to say here, is, don't hate us because of our goverment. hate us because our goverment is trained and taken over by people who have no morals. There are plently of americans, that just because they dont' have the cash, can't get anywhere near the goverment, but could effect it greatly if they did.

*shrugs* Okee. I'm done with my bitchin'.

~ Selunca
Damn Pround Iowan, who hates anonymouse bastards that can't post their freakin' name.

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I couldn't agree more with this. I am English, and I hate the American government, I hate what America stands for, I hate her pretence of freedom and facade of policing the world. What I hate most is George W Bush, particularly the quote 'either you're with us, or with the terrorists'. To be honest, I don't know whether I'd rather be with Bush or with the terrorists, in fact Bush is a terrorist himself. And I could be arrested for saying this - they could probably claim that I'm an active terrorist. So much for freedom of speech.

That said, I like Americans. I get on with every American I have met (although they're only the ones who come to Britain).

It's not just America I resent, I hate Tony Blair just as much for sheepishly following George W Bush in all his pathetic wars and schemes. But that's not to say I hate all British people, is it?

As a native American who has lived in/visited other cultures I found your essay fascinating as much for what it did'nt say as as what it did. First, everything you pointed out is basically true to one degree or another. Actually, it's a regional thing in the US where some regions would surpass your low expectations of them while other regions would not be recognizable as classic american culture. This diversity is in fact one of the main problems with our culture (politically). It is virtually impossible to form a consensus of thought on any viable topic so our leaders usually go for the lowest common demoninator opting for sound bite topics that are easy for even the least astute to understand ie, terroism, abortion, etc. Our system of government is focused on short term solutions due to our politicians relatively short tenures. Our political parties either simplify complex problems or offer complex solutions to simple ones trying to pacify the largest number of people in one fell swoop. Also, while hating the US, keep in mind that it represent ALL of us in the world community, that is every culture, ethnic group and religion are established here. Every political point of view is represented and must be taken into account once again making consensus impossible. Finally, as far as all of the other standard complaints regarding the US, most of us living here are in complete agreement. There is way too much commercialism. I personally have not eatin a Big Mac in twenty years. We hate the way the corporations and the big money people act and let them know on a regular basis. We are not stupid, naive and uncaring. We are trying to commit to change but it is a very large country and change will come slowly. After all, it has taken Europe many centuries to come to their senses, please allow us time to mature as well.

Flagburning dude return

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As a native American who has lived in/visited other cultures I found your essay fascinating as much for what it did'nt say as as what it did. First, everything you pointed out is basically true to one degree or another. Actually, it's a regional thing in the US where some regions would surpass your low expectations of them while other regions would not be recognizable as classic american culture. This diversity is in fact one of the main problems with our culture (politically). It is virtually impossible to form a consensus of thought on any viable topic so our leaders usually go for the lowest common demoninator opting for sound bite topics that are easy for even the least astute to understand ie, terroism, abortion, etc. Our system of government is focused on short term solutions due to our politicians relatively short tenures.

-----Oh ja. These short term solutions are kinda your country's trademark. It seems EVERYTHING you do is short term. I mean, a-bombing for example. The reasons were to minimize american casualties ( which is bullshit in my pov. Those about to die for their country should do so. Also, the way to minimize am. cas. was to kill 200 000+ japanese civilians. sept 11th = 3500 dead americans. hunt for bin ladin = 10 000+ dead afghans. ending world war II in the easiest way = 200 000+ dead japanese. Quest to erradicate communism and spread global capitalism = Millions+ dead everywhere.
Maybe that says something about terrorism, huh?
and those people are the same who claim the title of heroes of ww2. what the fuck did you really do, except murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a single blow? OK. two blows. The guns the french and brittish used were yours, but that doesn't mean you really fought any.


The Religion of Islam

(Anonymous)
I'm just now learning about Islam, I read about a reason why "they" hate "us" so much that they resort to terrorism. It is because our country has run wild, there is child/spouse abuse, rape, cheating, gambling, and prostitution. Even some educated muslim men, men that have graduated from the United States, have seen all these things. They think of us as "The Heart of Satan's Power"

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(Anonymous)
Hi

While we Muslims do not like the cheating, rape, and gambling etc.. we think that America is not in a position where it can teach us how to run our own lives and countries. American afficials talk about human rights and democracy and all the nice stuff but when it comes to "Israel" they shut up. not only that but they also fully support it in killing our brothers and sisters in "Palistine" with money, weapons, and politics. this means only one thing, That America is our enimy.

As a Muslim i like to see everyone in this wide world living a good life with no worries, rape,abuse etc... but that does not mean i keep my mouth shut. America is BIG and it needed something like the 11th/9 attacks to wake up.

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Nice essay.

(Anonymous)
Execpt for the info about WW2. If the UK and France acted quicker, and didnt let Hitler just take Austria, and then GIVE checkeslavokia (sp?) to them it would have stemmed his power. Hitler thretened war and the UK
just said fine, take it. Im an American, and proud to be, just like everyone else is proud to be from their country. In a year im moving to England just see how everyone else lives. I think most people who are bashing America have never even been to America. I find all the bashing amusing actually. Im not even sure why people who dont like America even
care about people being fat, or what fast food places are here.

Re: Nice essay.

(Anonymous)
yes! but how do you think a yemenese man feels when americans who dont understand his culture and country etc etc comes in, with troops and scares people..may accidently kill civilians..~

Blah.. Why are we trying to be a world cop? Its too hard you cant do it alone and other countries wont help enough because they all think problems will fix themselves or with a little monetary aid i guess! So should the USA stick to itself, and only do what the UN says, like be the UNs bitch?~ o wait the UN cant make the USA its bitch... well gee sticky situation....see you guys think you ahve all the answers you haters know who im talking to..

WHAT IS THE ANSWER? :( help me i'm suddenly not as happy for the future..

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(Anonymous)
If that so, Then america should not have killed or helped kill hundreds of thousands in Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, Korea, Vietnam, Japan, Panama, Palistine, Granada and god knows where else. They should have negotiated peacefuly with them and showed them how civilized america is.
As a race we won't evolve into anything better than what we are. The killing won't stop unless we come to respect each other for who we are not for how many tanks we have.

Thank you

The American are nice.

(Anonymous)
Hi All

I'm an Arab Muslim who had the chance to study in the united states and also dealt with so many American people after that. The americans as people are nice, easy going and fun to deal with and i don't hold any personal hatered against them.
But i totally disagree with the US Government's foriegn policy especially when it comes to "Israel" The problem with the american government is that they think they can plant Israel in the Middleast and we are going to feel OK about it. and then they come up with all types of peace plans and they start negotiations as they please forgetting that this is an Arab land which they are trying to cut into small peices. Get real America, This is our land and we like it as much or maybe more than any American likes his/her city or vellage. Patriotism is not limited to the American people only.

arrogance is the disease of the American government, They think they can dectate what they want and everyone else should listen and act accordingly. is this Democracy? History has taught us that such civillizations don't last long.

But the question is "Am i ready to attack American people and interests?" YES YES YES, If America keeps on humilating Arabs and Muslims by continued unconditional support to ISRAEL. If they like them so much why don't they keep them in America? the Jews are the EVIL in this world and America is going to find out but when it's too late.

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(Anonymous)
I was reading over your post. Throughout the entire thing I thought it was the best post I had seen. I agreed with everything until I read the last thing. This was that Jews were the problem in the world. Rather I would say it should be the people who wan to have a secular Jewish governmaent in the Middle East. I find that horrrible. I'd like to say one thing I'm Jewish. I don't support Isreal. I think that when you say the Jews are the problem you have the wrong people. It is really the people who want Isreal to be a state. I was really huert by what you wrote. It was such a streotype. Please be aware I have nothing against you or any one else in this world. It would be very nice if you could stay not be so general because there are 14 million Jews and so they can't all think alike.

Hatred

(Anonymous)
Its a shame that most of the responses to an outstanding essay fall into the traps
that you outlined (as to why people are anti-american). I have met Americans as well
as Muslims and have found them all to be utterly decent people. Its such a shame that
the people that represent these different nations and cultures represent the most ignorant
and/or extreame views of the people they supposedly represent. The fundamental problem
that plagues both sides of the argument is a lack of objective education.

Yes I agree... it seems most the people who respond do that.

Also I agree with your statement that the ordinary people on all sides of the anti-American (also this includes Europeans and Arabs, not just Muslims) and American side are fine. It's the loud outspoken ones who are frequently the most hate filled and bigotted.

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Why does the intro suggest that 6000 died....the final toll was 3000 +/- a couple. Overestimating, or or outright inflating the fatalities only serves to make the event seem more drastic. More children die in Iraq every month than died on 911 due to Americas reductive embargo on Saddam....

I wrote this quite close to the event, at the time the news was reporting 6000 people... care to point me to a resource that gives more up to date figures?

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