Vexen Crabtree 2015


Vexen Crabtree's Live Journal

Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Alas, as the traditional God is outside of time (eternal) and all-knowing, then BEFORE it decided to limit itself it would have learn all that it was going to do, so even if it was seen as logically possible to limit the power of God, it wouldn't actually grant itself free will by doing so.

If you hold that God can limit it's own power, then you are saying that God could also kill itself. If you posit a theory of God that includes the potential to create illogical, or logically impossible, states, then the theory you're proposing is itself unbelievable.


If you hold that God cannot limit his own power, then you are saying he is not all powerful and thus the basic attribute many of your arguments depend on collapses. I would say that yes God could kill himself if he wanted. For those that believe Jesus was the physical manifestation of God, God the father did indeed let the God in physical form die. I consider myself a Universalist/Unitarian, so I do not think that Jesus was God, but yes, theoretically, God could kill himself. I think you should consider joining the Universalist/Unitarian Church. It is a very liberal church that does not believe Jesus was a God just a great teacher. We also believe that you do not have to be a "Christian" to go to heaven. Furthermore, we do not believe in Hell. I will reinterate this as my main message though, God cannot be completely evil because life is not completely painful. Eating and sex, the things most fundamental to survival are pleasurable, if God was truly evil, he would make everything painful. I cannot prove God is completely good, but I think it is impossible to prove God is completely evil. As far as God's existence goes, I think String Theory helps bolster the argument that some Godlike being(S) created this universe because now we know that microphysics is based upon order and laws as well (before microphysics was all just based on chaos). The fact that everything, large and small obey certain laws and that everything is made up of the same "stuff" (i.e. vibrating strings of energy) I think argues in favor of some Godlike creation, although I cannot "prove" God exists.

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