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I've realized... Well, first of all I know I have many beautiful, intelligent, amazing and wonderful friends. I've realized that I haven't been grabbing these friends by the balls and pro-actively going out and having good times. My last years' resolutions, although heartilly inspiring, were not entirely fulfilled, mostly because I've set into stone my new career which is massively more important, but in general I done good. My single new years' resolution: Become a model of pro-active energy Carpe Diem!!This means carpe diem baby! It means travelling to see my friends instead of leaving it to random events, which, however nice, are not frequent enough. It means making things happen more, instead of slowly seeping my talent into the world methodically and cautiously, I'm going to engage the world with a pro-active embrace, valuing my friends and loved ones as the heart of the Vexen empire; from which stems as always the roots of enlightenment, improvement, progressiveness and stability: Fuelled on love and the search for peace. This is the end of the gradual-influence, Mr. Nice Guy Vexen, and my Year of Fire, of You Will Hear From Me, especially socially. The problem with Nice Guy Vexen is that you never really knew what I wanted... from now on, from yesterday, I'm immediate, direct, therefore stronger in new ways. Vexen Version Three is dead! In some ways - personally, inside my life, introvertly, I AM pro-active and energetic... but, the Age of Fire is the age where the world changes and purges and old, traditional, stagnant, barriers break in order to form a world of change and no-messing-around, no chains-of-the-past. Long live VV4! Tags: friends, new years' resolutions, vexen Current Mood: lonely Listening To: "Crash" by Big Electric Cat
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From: vexen |
Date: January 3rd, 2004 03:09 pm (UTC) |
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The expansion of space-time itself would not have an affect on the visible layout of the constellations for a long time. Any involving visible galaxies would have most affect, but, as you know most visible "stars" are within our own galaxy. Stars within our own galaxy would not be affected by expansion by any really noticable amount for a long time!
The biggest change that we note during our own history is the inner movement of stars relative to each other, because expansion is not uniformly centripetal, stars and groups move criss-cross, and this would have most affect on astrological charts.
HOWEVER... as there is no "theory of astrology", we do not how if this would affect the accuracy of astrological conclusions... it may be that it doesn't matter, and that this movement and change-of-time of "accuracy" is actually part of the predictive correctness, so that what as linear-minded "sensible" people see as "change over time of consistency of predictions" = "error", they see it as part of the way the whole system works.
Not sure if that was clear, in short:
What we see as "error" in astrological measurements (over time), could actually have no affect because this "error" could be part of how the system works: As we don't know how astrology could be correct, we don't know what factors of long-term relative star movement could affect the accuracy of astrology.
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From: vexen |
Date: January 3rd, 2004 03:40 pm (UTC) |
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Vexen's devil's advocate defence of astrology
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"Error" 1. Because it's not an error, but, the movement of the stars is part of the accuracy of the whole system.
The unkown: 2. No, not knowing how it works means that we don't KNOW that the movement of stars relative to each other within a constellation actually does make astrology "inaccurate".
3. Imagine a comparison (this may be completely wrong, haven't thought about it yet...). Take the standard maths behind the big bang theory, and assume that it doesn't take into account the fact that any given universal constant (i.e., planck constant) may have changed over time. We may find that the theory is still correct even though this constant has changed, and that the predictions made by the big bang theory are unaffected by the change, because the change is (unintentionally) already "covered" by the methods of the theory, even though no-one at the moment knows quite how.
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From: aspen_fox |
Date: January 3rd, 2004 03:53 pm (UTC) |
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Well then, I'm just a crabby ol' stubborn Capricorn. ...mostly. ;)
To my [limited] understanding, the position of the stars in our system is THE basis for astrological predictions. Now, whether or not any variations are taken into account, such as orbital fluctuations/what-have-you, would that not affect the predictions themselves? I think the question was whether universal expansion has any effect on particular systems, and it's a good question. :)
I like your comparison (it's still sinking in). I'm not sure what the big bang theory is trying to predict, except in retrospect--in guessing how it all got started. This seems a bit different than astrology, and I'll need to think on it a little more, and probably do some reading before I can offer any kind of intelligent response, and no guarantees even then! At the moment it seems to be beyond everyone's grasp so we are limited to theories. ;)
And btw, AFAIC (as far as I'm concerned), you can play devil's advocate all you want. :) Sometimes I do it, too. It makes LJ so interesting. :Þ
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