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Anti-Semitism: History and Causes

A largeish page about hatred of the Jews in the last 2000 years, including the theorists behind it's hateful popularisation and those who have most fiercely upheld and furthered the immoral causes of anti Jewish racism.

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From: (Anonymous) Date: November 5th, 2004 09:22 pm (UTC) (Link)

Christians/Jews

You are sooooo wrong about the true, born-again, Christians hating the Jews. Sorry ... wrong! We LOVE the Jewish people because we KNOW they are the chosen people of God. We ONLY spread proclomations about how ALL people are to love the Jews, etc. Also, we condemn the Arab world (i.e., Palestinians) trying to ursurp the Jews' rights to their land given to them in the Abrhamic Contract (Covenant) with God. So, get your facts straight before YOU spread hate ... hate towards the Christians. We love the Jews ... even if they have not accepted Jesus as their Mesiah!!!! Because we realize they are SPECIAL and the apple of God's eye. Love, A born-again Bible-Believing Jew LOVER!!!!! :>:>:>
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 8th, 2004 06:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Also, Hitler was no more a Christian than I am a Satanist. Hitler, if you check your history, was dabbling in Satanism, Mysticism, etc. He was totally controlled by Satan! If you notice, in most of his long, public speaches, he would actually kind of go into almost a tyrannical trance (and sort of foamed at the mouth). Hitler never was a born-again Christian or anything close to it. In the Angelic Conflict, Satan is out to wipe the Jews off the earth (used Hitler and some others throughout history, but FAILED. Satan is trying to do this because he thinks if he wipes every Jew out, that he will thwart God's plan because God has a special plan for the Jews in the Tribulation and beyond. Satan knows the Jews are God's chosen people through the Abrahamic Covenant (Contract) and they are the apple of his eye. But, of course, God wins and Satan loses. But, anyway, Satan controlled Hitler ... had nothing to do with Christianity! Like I said, TRUE, BORN-AGAIN BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS LOVE THE JEWS AND REALIZE HOW SPECIAL THEY ARE. Praying you get your facts straight! Remember this: Nothing sinful/bad comes from God/Jesus ... only through Satan and the old sin nature we are ALL born with. Praying for you!
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 24th, 2004 09:37 pm (UTC) (Link)

Christians/Jews

Saying Chrisitans "love jews" is very narrow minded. I am a christian and i do not like jews, but not becasue they are jews, but because they are jews and use being "presecuted for all ages" as a tool to control those around them and even entire governments. If you think for one second that a jew is out to do good for a christian, then you are truly ignorant to their very actions. Lets just name a few examples shall we. The ACLU, the most anti-christian org in the world, was formed by jews, and is run by jews. The ADL, formed by jews for jews, has been caught using 3rd reich tactics themselves, against non-jews. In fact, every law that forbids praying in public, acknowledging G_d in public, removing references to christmas from children, were and are removed from us by.......jews.

So Christian, do you think your ignorance is worth the cost its causing?
From: (Anonymous) Date: December 14th, 2004 09:11 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

I can only ask, what Bible are you reading and what anti-semitic fake Christian church are you attending??? Also, what false teaching pastor are you listening to??? You better get out of it now! God commands us to love the Jews. God states, "Those who bless the Jews will be blessed and those who curse the Jews will be cursed." Yes, they are very anti-Christian, but God says they will be in the Bible ... BUT ... they are His chosen people and the apple of His eye whom He made a covenant with. He has a special plan for them. Yes, Jews make some disappointing choices (but don't we all?), but YOU are to pray for their salvation and for the peace of Israel. You better read the Bible again and pray to God that He puts the truth of His chosen people in your heart! :>:>
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 23rd, 2005 10:36 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

Try reading the NEW testament.
They WERE His chosen people and WERE the apple of His eye whom He made a covenant with. He HAD a special plan for them. Then along came money lenders and sodom & gomorrah , and then they killed his son.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 3rd, 2005 05:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

YOU need to read the NEW TESTAMENT AND OLD TESTAMENT AGAIN. PAUL IS A JEW! DUH! All the Apostles were JEWS, except for Luke, the Greek physician. JESUS IS A JEW! DUH! God speaks of his covenant with the Jews in the Old and New Testament ... God NEVER breaks a promise! I pray your heart repents of this. You are probably what, a "Presbyterian"??? ... maybe? Some of the main-line denominations (especially the Presbyterians) are into false teaching about the Jews, etc. They are actually telling their flocks to divest from Israel. God help you all! As Zola Levitt, a born-again Bilbe-believing JEWISH Pastor, who came to our church (non-denominational) to speak last year, said, and I quote, "What are all the Jew haters, etc. going to say to Jesus about their hatred (or whatever) when the meet THE KING OF THE JEWS, JESUS?" I think you will probably be speechless, don't you think? And you will not have any defense. Also, for your information, the Jews DID NOT kill Jesus. Jesus FREELY gave up his life so that YOU, ME and EVERYONE ELSE could be redeemed and go to heaven! God ordained it! You are ignorant and stupid when it comes to scripture. Find a GOOD Bible teacher ... obviously not one in the church you belong to. You give TRUE Christians a bad name.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 14th, 2005 02:08 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

the fact is, Christianity and Judaism were once the same religion. The Berkhiat Honynym of 85CE, said daily in Jewish synagogues as a verbal, collective 'prayer' read something like this;
"And for apostates let there be no hope;
And may the insolent kingdome be quickly uprooted, in our days.
And may the Nazarenes and heretics perish quickly;
And may they be erased from the Book of Life;
And my they not be inscribed with the righteous.
Blessed art thou, Lord, who humblest the insolent"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but seeing as Christianity, the fledgling religion of the time, was cursed and Christian-Jews (as they were then known), seems as though any claim to Christians being anti-semitic is completely hypocritic and rediculous. I agree, all this 'we have been oppressed in the past, and anyone who says anything anti Israel is an anti-semite also!' bullshit is a scourge on the democratic processes that the UN attempts to implement. These people who claim to know 'scripture' best look at the basis of the Jewish actions in history rather than the books written by them about them. After all, surely historical documentation is the far superior source on such prejudice between religions. Ultimately, it was Judaism that commenced any variety of hatred between the two religions. While we're on the topic of historical facts over claims made by supposedly irrefutable 'scripture' (which, by the way, was written for a purpose and as such twists historical events in an effort to convince the desired audience about something [see Jn 20:31 for the Fourth Gospel's aim]), lets look at historical evidence regarding David quickly. There is no historical proof to back up David's supposed glorious uniting of the Jewish tribes under the banner of Israel, there is, however, record of the Phillestines actions at this time; 1/2 of the towns mentioned to have been 'conquered in the name of Judaism' by David have only records of small attacks easily fought off... seems the premise of a Jewish nation in Israel may be flawed?
This only one man's opinion, however, and as such you can take it or leave it. I in no-way dislike Jews or am anti-semitic. I simply study the historical merits of such disputes and as such feel as though certain considerations need to be brought to people's attention. But i sincerely suggest everyone check their facts before making comments or judgements about things they selectively understand...
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: January 23rd, 2005 06:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

I agree that nowadays, most Christians respect Jews and many Christian churches no longer seek to persecute Jews more than any other non-Christian.

However, in history, Christians and Christian Churhces were the opposite, and sought to kill or convert Jews, preaching much hatred and organising much anti-Semitism.

How people read the Bible changes over time; nowadays it is not cool to find that the Bible condones anti-Semitism.
From: (Anonymous) Date: August 23rd, 2006 09:34 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

Anti-Semitism is alive and kicking in 2006. First of all I am jewish. This month marks two years that my boyfriend and I are together. We wanted to get engaged but his anti Semitic family is dead set against it and me. I am a really nice person and a school teacher. I come from a good family. I am not religious at all. To them this means nothing. I am a JEW. I would be better off if I was a jobless crackhead drunk that was catholic. Sad but true. This has just come to my attention NOW after two years because he told them he wanted to get engaged to me.
Next, Jesus was a jew who did not like how many people were treated by others because they were sick or missing a limb ETC. These people were not allowed to share the baths in the temples and were looked down on by others. Jesus at first really became the leader of these outcasts. He assured them that G-d loved them, that he loved them. He spoke about peace, love, and acceptance of all, even prostitutes etc were loved by G-d.
I find it very hard to believe that G-d would want people to hate. There was nothing written about Jesus for many years after his death. I think stories maybe got a bit messed up. It is interesting, no amazing, to hear what scientists and historians today have to say about the way Jesus might have lived and all of the factual information that is being discovered daily.
Last, I was really impressed by what some born again Christians had to say on this subject. It gave me a warm feeling. Thank you. Sincerely Jennifer NYC
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 14th, 2008 04:58 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Christians/Jews

..."because they are jews and use being "presecuted for all ages" as a tool to control those around them and even entire governments"

First I can see from your writing old propaganda is still alive.

And second thing - this is not a toll for controlling governments, Europe and USA are trying to wipe Israel out of map and make Arab country anyway...

If Holocaust is forgotten it will happen again.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 23rd, 2005 11:39 am (UTC) (Link)
(((It was only with the rise of Christianity that the world saw bloodthirsty, immoral and fundamentalist intolerance for freedom of belief)))
O yes i forgot, before christianity EVERY SINGLE PERSON on the face of the planet was considerate, open-minded, rational, tolerant, unbiased, objective and definitely pacifistic.


(((Big nosed, money grabbers, conspirators and grotesque
the Jews actually owned and wrote the "Old Testament")))

Have you ever read the verses in the old testament (the torah) that tell the reader(in those days, jews) to charge less to brother JEWS?(or in other words, charge gentiles (non-jews) more), now id call that..... money grabbing? And wouldnt you "conspire" with members of your own... neighbourhood, circle of friends, colleagues, whatever? even if the conspiracy was simply to go down the park for a picnic. The jews ARE conspirators, its just that so is everyone else on the damn planet.

(((Germany and more Eastern countries were not anti-Jewish, and communities existed there peacefully.)))
REALLY!?, i suppose exist is sort of right. After WW2 the jews were treated slightly better in Russia (and the majority of eastern Europe) than in Nazi Germany, but they were still a starving 'lower species of man'. And how many millions of jews did Stalin kill?, I think it was a little less that the 3rd Reich, so yeah.....existed.
(((The Roman way was tolerance. They allowed most religions to exist
The Roman Empire, once a multicultural tolerant nation.)))

Multicultural!, what are you slow?. The Roman EMPIRE!, multicultural?, its kind of difficult to invade and control the better part of two continents with hundreds of independant countries, provinces, and territories, and keep hundreds of thousands of slaves of various races and ethnicities, without being a little bit flexible (MOST religions)
And please, the Holy Roman Empire was not christian (orgy anyone?) it was CATHOLIC, and it may surprise you to know, seing as you seem to have done so little research, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT CHRISTIAN, it just pretends to be, because it serves its purpose well to have ignorant fools thinking that it is. Roman Catholocism sprung up as the Holy Roman Empire was beginning to fail, the empire needed a way to keep its power.

But you probably wouldnt be interested in this, as it doesnt substantiate what smells, to me, very strongly of anti-gentilism, and specifically anti-christianism.
BTW while i consider myself a christian, i am not anti-semitic. i am misanthropistic. The best thing for the planet, which is, for all intents and purposes, the only god most of humanity will ever know, would be..... hmmmmm a really big comet, or maybe if we keep going with global warming, the resulting ice age will wipe this beautiful blue ball clean of the prejudiced bigoted xenophobic arrogant corrupt greedy vengeful scum, known as, to us: homo sapiens.

Have a nice day ;) I hope we all die quickly.
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: January 23rd, 2005 06:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm misanhthropic too. A "weak misanthrope", not a genuine hateful one though.

Many people have hated many others, it's not my belief that before Christianity everyone loved everyone. There has always been prejudice, violence and genocide. BUT... anti-semitism as a distinct, international force against Jews (not all semites, just Jews) was codified, organized, promoted and had it's seeds set by Christian literature, church, actions and preaching over more than a thousand years.

No other mass racism has been quite so comprehensive as the methodical and persistent preaching aganist Jews by Christians. That's simply the history of it.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 4th, 2005 07:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
Did you forget (before Christians existed) that Egypt held the Hebrews (Jews) as slaves??? Remember, Moses and the Exodus? Maybe, in history, mislead FALSE Christians hated the Jews. But, as God as my witness, no true, real, born-again, Bible-believing Christian could ever hate a Jew. Enough said. :>
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 3rd, 2005 02:09 am (UTC) (Link)
No doubt about it, before Christianity anti-Semitism simply did NOT EXIST as a malignant force. Christianity invented and spread anti-Semitism, without a doubt.
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 3rd, 2006 03:55 am (UTC) (Link)

Idiot

No doubt about it, before Christianity anti-Semitism simply did NOT EXIST as a malignant force. Christianity invented and spread anti-Semitism, without a doubt.

You are a Complete F**king tool. You have no idea. Were you around at the time? Which sourecs are you taking this grounbreaking and simply unquestionable facts from? I have an idea, i think it rhymes with "Your Arse".
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 14th, 2005 02:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Berkhiat Honynym - or 12th benediciton is all that needs be checked. The perfect example of a young group of christians being openly persecuted through the Aposynagogus (look it up) by the Jewish 'race'. Clearly this is preceeds any sort of Christian Anti-Semitism, and as such your portrayal of the Christians as anti-semitic and that being bad seems fundementally flawed and hypocritic. check ALL facts before making such general comments!
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 27th, 2005 02:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Disbelief

What I find most difficult to grasp in all of this is that it all has to be their fault ,or their fault or because of this ,or because of that ,can it not be that the problem of all anti's wether they be ethnic,religious or based on nothing more than the side of bed one departed from in the morning be addressed for the small minded illogical thoughts or actions that they really are.Is it really possible to hate ALL Jews,ALL Muslims ALL Blacks or is it more that the real evil here is generalisation which is exactly what this rather offensive diatribe is all about .GENERALISATION is the root of all evil here .And for those who believe I may be upholding either Hebrew or Christian principles mine is the belief referred to often as The Crooked Path which truly does love everyone until or unless !!!
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 3rd, 2005 02:07 am (UTC) (Link)

Vexen: Brilliant page, you are absolutely right

I'm a Jewish and its so refreshing to read a truthful account about the origins and cause of anti-Semitism. What you say is 100% true, and to be honest, it seems so obvious doesnt it, yet amazingly these obvious facts are considered "controversial."

Well done for telling the truth and keep up the good work.

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