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| From: (Anonymous) |
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November 28th, 2005 10:06 am (UTC)
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Re: The world around me
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Yes, but then you couldn't post comments on the internet, on your computer, with your electricity. :D
We are the most arrogant organism on the planet, without a doubt... but the stupidest??? Don't think so. I believe you're being just a bit extreme. I'm totally agreed that we're overpopulated, but... I mean, let's find a way to deal with it that doesn't involve extinction, yeah?
I also agree 100% with you about religion BUT... in my experience, people are happier and friendlier believing in the afterlife (I don't, but wow do I hope I'm wrong). You can't count extremists, either! I think it's something that, with NORMAL people, is a way of coping that is better than going out and doping up.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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January 24th, 2005 07:02 am (UTC)
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hi, vexen, I ran into your website through wiki. It's amazing that you are also a beyond's fan. I never thought a foreigner like beyond, and I also like metallica. you really write a lot of articles posting on you website. I've been reading for more than one hour, my bad computer screen make my eyes sore. so I'll finish the reading in this week.
I live in shanghai, have you ever heard about the city? what can I say? From your article, you look like extreme. Until now, I can't understand why you hold a opinion of misanthropy. I don't know whether you understand chinese, there's no any misanthropy-thought in beyond's lyric. Compared to majority people in china, I think may be I should belong to the group of extremist, but you look more extreme than me?
I have all the beyond's song. I think you just hear part of their songs. if you like, I would like to send you their MP3, include some of their concerts. Anyway, It's fun to communicate with a beyond's western fan.
My english is poor, hope it doesn't affect you understanding.
you can call me uncou, hope to hear you soon. my e-mail is : shatterusa@163.com
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From: vexen |
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February 14th, 2005 12:10 pm (UTC)
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Re: Curious
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Firstly: The Old Testament God done quite a lot of killing... in the name of good. AND the same Godl, for example, murdered many innocent children, pregnant women, etc, in the aftermath of the Tsunami. I don't know if evil NEEDS to share power when "god" is such an expert in the matter. Secondly: I'm not a Christian, and there isn't a universal "battle" between good and evil. Satanism is about REALITY, and in reality, there is murder, death, pain and suffering. I accept that these exist, and that they are part of the natural world. It does not mean I condone them. Sort out what you think your God is, and accept that if YOU would have me accept God, you would also have me accept a murderous, evil, corrupt and malicious being. God is evil: http://www.dpjs.co.uk/god.htmlTheodicy (The Problem of Evil) http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/theodicy.htmlThe basics of Satanism: http://www.dpjs.co.uk/modern.html
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From: vexen |
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February 14th, 2005 07:01 pm (UTC)
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Re: It's To Bad
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There are quite a lot of Christian magicians praying for some magical solution to my life... unfortunately, the Christian God is either ignoring all of you, or is actively opposing you!
When you pray, do you really hope to change the mind of God?? God, I think you believe, is all-knowing. It knows everything, always has and always will. It knows everything that I need. Why do you think that praying, telling God to save me, is going to change anything?
If it is right for God to save me, it will save me. Because God does what is right; hence the term "benevolent". If it is not right for God to save me, then it won't, because God won't do things that it is not right to do.
So... by praying... do you mean to go against God's will? To try and change what it is right for God to do?
Think about your motives and the contradiction here... if God doesn't want me to think that it exists, then nothing you can do about it will change it!
Jesus said "Get thee behind me, Satan!" to an apostle who thought he knew better than God's plan... by trying to sway God's mind through prayer, YOU are behaving in the same way as that apostle! No matter how good your intentions are, your own master in chief, Mr Christ, would call you Satanic for it! Think about what it means to pray, hope or wish for things, you might find you're not doing what your God wants you to be doing!
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| From: (Anonymous) |
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March 23rd, 2005 02:04 am (UTC)
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Reactionary, rather than progressive
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Dear Vexen,
I found your website very interesting, and I must admit that I now realise that Satanism is not what I initially thought it was. I thank you for that.
As a practicing Muslim, I do not agree with your views, but have noticed that you are an intelligent deeply thoughtful person. I must point out two things. Firstly, your views on Islam (which you are entitled to) are not altogether accurate. Some of the things you stated about Islam are not true, and actually in Islam, each individual is highly valued by the Creator.
Secondly, your own beliefs/practices seem to have a major element of negativity towards Islam and Christianity. Surely, if Satanism is about the individual, it would not oppose the individual's wish to serve what people (I) believe to be our Creator's wishes. All of the world's major religions (including Islam), on some level or another, reject ALL other religions, and in this respect Satanism (if it can be called a religion) is the same. However, unless I am mistaken, only Satanism appears to make, the discrediting of other religions, its chief business. Satanists use symbols and icons whose sole purpose is to shock and perhaps provoke believers of other religions. It seems strange that Satanists use symbols (e.g. Satan) that would actually indirectly support the existence of a Creator rather than oppose it (confusing). This all seems inconsistent to me. I would say that Satanism ideals are reactionary, rather than progressive. It seems that Satanism can only exist as an opposition to Islam/Christianity, and could not exist on its own. What do you think?
Best wishes (honestly) Yeasmin
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Hey Vexen, Honestly, at first I couldn't believe I wasa even going to write a comment considering my background and all. (Raised Catholic, Catholic school and all) But I realized some things through checking out your website. I like one of the guests initally checked out your site because I didn't want to be ignorant to the beliefs around me Even though I'm a Christian. I do however, disagree with that guest because of some things that were said. On a base level we all have opinions and ideas that we feel the need to express- I suppose that is natural, It is possible that by me sharing my opinion now, i will piss off the christian who so many times wrote how they would be praying for you. I personally believe in God and with that I understand that we were all given free will. Therefore it will do none of us any good to beat eachother over the head with whose "religion" is better. I think you showed great understanding and respect for human beings by how you responded intially to that guest. I only thought it fair for myself to explore all the religions I could so that I could make a truly informed decision as to what I feel I believe. I thank you for allowing me to see what Satanist view so I could no longer be misled into thinking some made up crap that I've seen in movies. To be honest, I wish, especially concerning your views on sex and relationships, that more so-called men believed what you do since it would save me a huge damn headache! lol. I just wanted you to know that I will be coming back to your site often to see what is going on in your world- not to criticize or haggle you because I'm Christian. If people had even an ounce of respect for others that you seem to demonstrate then maybe the world would be better. I'm not even gonna get into quoting the bible and all that because I feel that if you felt like reading quotes from it, you could pick one up. I'm not gonna belabor you with that as others have chosen to. I was actually curious to hear your satnce on abortion. I'm "weird" about it because whenevr I'm asked my stance I say I'm pro choice yet don't truly believe in abortion. I say I'm pro-choice because I believe that having been given free will a person can and will choose to do what they want including abort a fetus. Personally I could never go through with such a thing because I would feel as though I was impuding on another human's rights if I killed them. I am pro-choice because my choice is not to do it. Anyway, just wanted to know what your thoughts and Satanists thoughts were on the matter. By the way, you've started quite a debate between me and my fiance which is actually a good thing. It reminds me how smart he is! lol And to think there would be some of my own kind (Christians) who would tell me that nothing good could come out of listening to a Satanist. Go figure! Wishing you peace, love and all that good stuff, Janay
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From: mysexyrobot |
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May 26th, 2005 04:28 pm (UTC)
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Words out of my mouth
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So... I've had a load of thoughts in my head for a long time, things that I've picked up from living in the world. I've never really met many other people who have come to the same conclusions as me, and have only debated the ideas with people who disagree. I decide to get these ideas straight in my head so prepare to write a little book. During some online research I come across your web site and shock, someone else seems to have come to many of the same conclusions as I have, totally independently. Many of the sections you have on your website are titles of chapters in my book, even down to 'the Media', even down to disclaimers about the use of English to describe ideas. Infect almost every section you have on your website is covered in my book. Its really quite amazing seeing as I have only really deduced my ideas from what i have seen around me. I would not consider myself a Satanist, my work is more to do with the futility of existence and general eradication of all religious foundations. I am very pro-life and definitely up for having a good time, I certainly don't want to hurt other people in the progress. I notice you wrote the majority of these articles about 6 years ago. Your own thoughts have presumably moved on since then, have you decided to ignore/get over your past beliefs? Or have you developed on them? Anyway very interesting reading, even though in my case you are preaching to the converted! Blair.
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From: vexen |
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May 31st, 2005 05:48 am (UTC)
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Re: Why?
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I am a determinist and don't believe in free will whether or not God exists. If God exists, there is no free will. If God doesn't exist, there is still no free will. It's a fairytale concept, something that makes people feel good, and something we think we experience, but there isn't really anything called "free will". http://www.vexen.co.uk/3/hf.html -> There is no free will, cause-and-affect determine what actions we chose. We only become aware of our choices, we don't "make" choices, just observe our brains making them for us, beyond our control like consciousness itself. http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/freewill.html -> List of pages on free will. Including: * God has no free will. * If God exists, free will is impossible. * The Christian Bible argues that free will is irrelevant. My reasons for debating is that I enjoy the challenge and find it a most beautiful and compelling way of finding out what is true. When people successfully challenge my views, I change my website. So, try your worst! (But note that I like to keep discussions relevant - so if you want to debate free will, don't do it here but do it on the Free Will pages linked above!)
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