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Equality, Egalitarianism and Social Stratification in Satanism

Equality, Egalitarianism and Social Stratification in Satanism

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That was a good article, I enjoyed reading it.

The section 'People are Not Equal' made me think of this immediately:

"to be original is to be in some way different from others. Hence, to be original is to violate equality" I-330 in We by Yevgeny Zamyatin

-Ed

Re: People are Not Equal

(Anonymous)
You are not Satanists, you are stupid. Quality? Equality? Who cares about moral imperatives. They have no meaning before the DARK LORD. EVIL? GOOD? Bahh!!!To HIM they are but wings of the same bird. You are posers, you know nothing. OUR CREED: BEYOND GOOD AND EVIL...Go back to sunday school
IC HOMINOUS SATARC PROMOTA MORGARIA ISA...


sympathy and common sense

(Anonymous)
So, in other words Vexen, you believe personally that the way this ideal is often expressed w/in the satanic community is a little off? From the sounds of things, you see the logical difference between the varrying levels of "ignorance" and out and out plain "stupidity", am I correct?

If so, that is closer to how I feel. I have seen alot of stupidity in the satanic community when it comes to having a lack of sympathy or empathy for others, this disgusts me. Too many don't recognize the differences between beeing "ignorant" or "ill informed" and the differing levels of "stupidity"{some deserving 'some' protection of help due to beeing partially ignorant}.

Perhaps, the way it is writtenw/in the ethical writings of satanism in too simplistic a way to be this clear. But then again, perhaps it is wriutten that way and said that way in order to show those that use common sesne w/in satanism and those whom just plainly follow the irreligion for the purpose of beeing dick-heads!
However,I wonder, does this do any good in weeding out these types whom bring a bad and hypocritical name to Satanism? Should these things maybe be written and explained in a more specific manner so as not to draw in these very same dick-heads?

HAIL SATAN

In Reason:
Bill "Iconoclastithon" Baker

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Re: sympathy and common sense

(Anonymous)
Actually they{sympathy,empathy,common sense} are NOT Christian concpets. Do you have ANY knowledge of world history,sociology,psychology,world religions,science,etc-?
Christianity has existed for all of two thousand years of human history, and even in that time It has not existed across the entire globe, it has taken that long to reach the corners of the Earth. Before Christianity was created{and even after in cultures that existed where it had not yet reached} variuos cultures,religions,and peoples lived and practiced those ideals and virtues, some in the name sof their gods and goddesses, some merely as a social contruct reached through compromise and reason.
The ancient greeks were proposing "common sense' long before Christianity ever did. During Christianities reign, the church did not live or truly preach any of those ethics until the last couple centuries or so, it was an oppressive regime{even though that is contrary to the vast majority of the ideas of it's founder, Jesus, whom believed in those ideals-though he was not the only in his culture nor the first in the world}, "common sense" as we think of it today was most heavily pushed by the rationalists, the athiests and agnostics, the Deists,etc.

Yes, these ideals are currently proposed by 'much" of the Christian maintream and liberal christianity, and the faiths founder believe din such ideals too; by no means wwere they or wa she-the first or the best at it. For example the prince commonly called the Buddha stressed such ideals; many ancient cultures/religions/peoples/individuals did.

Do you wish to talk of "christian conepts" and how dumb thy are? Why then are so playing into their hands by believing and forwarding this dark lord fallen angel crap-that IS Christian mythology! "Satan" before the christian church mixed him and the word Lucifer together, before they made him/it into a falln angel/rebel whom fough the god of the jews and christians-YhWh; before all that, Satan was merely a "word" meaning in hebrew "adversary" and reffered to both any angel that the tribal god of the ancient Israelites sent out to do some sort of opposing work for him, and also as a specific angel that acted as heavanly "prosecuter" in the courts of that very same god, but not as the fallen enemy of that god.

It was not unitl just a few centuries before Jesus time that the Jews borrowed fallen demi-god/angel,devil, concepts from pagan religions{including a afterlife torment place called hell, which is simply a norse goddess' name "hel" w/an extra "L" and mixed together w/their words which meant not afterlife torment-but rather "the grave"}.
The Christians capitlaized on this all, and created the fallen angel/dark lord mythg by mixing the hebrew term "satan" w/the Roman term "Lucifer" and the Norse word "hel" and the Hebrew words "sheol"/"hades" for "the grave", took the word "daimom"{which was Greek for "muse/inspiration/knowledge"} and made it "demon", misintrepreted Jewish scriptures as well as some of the letter sof the apostle Pauls verses, and mixed everything up, gave the devil the "dark lord' appearnce to demonize pagan horned gods{such as "Pan"} and viola-YOUR DARK LORD!

Modern Symbolic Satanism goes beyond all that{though indeed borrowing from christian mythology's symbolism "a bit" and aknoweldge it; amongst variuos other mytholgies,semantics,and ideas}. There is no literal satan, because the satan you are thinking of IS the Christian construct. To believe in and worship that construct of the dark lord you must then believe in the reality of the Judeo-Christian godfrom and the myths of the virgin birth,ressurection,etc of Jesus and that eh is the Isrealite tribal deity incarnated, and that that partciular god is the true god of all the cosmos; for which there is no more evidence for such a sill myth than there is for Allah,Vishnu,or Zeus.

In Reason:
Bill

Re: sympathy and common sense

(Anonymous)
I AM THE DARK LORD AND I TELL YOU THIS: ABDOMINOUS, DISPICIBUS, ABORTARIS,
YOU ARE NOTHING, INCONSEQUENTIAL, YOU ARE DUST ON THE WIND, AND I AM THE WIND THAT BLOWS AND SCATTERS....YOU HAVE NO MEANING, NO VALUE, BUT THIS: TO SUBMIT TO ME AND SUFFER FOR MY PLEASURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IT IS ONLY POSSIBLE TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL IF YOU FEEL THEM. THE DARK LORD KNOWS THEM NOT, AND WOULD STRIKE DOWN THAT BIRD WHO WEARS THE WINGS OF EACH...STRIKEN AREALIUS DESTRUCTOS ABANDONAIR ALE....

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