From: vexen	Date: May 29th, 2005 10:26 am (UTC)		(Link)

I can't be bothered with the messy, random "bottom" end either, mostly. Popular science and "big questions" are sometimes interesting elements of grassroots beliefs though.

*shivers at your mentioning of the E word*

Hey thanks for the compliment, it means something, coming from you.

	From: orinotta	Date: May 29th, 2005 11:08 am (UTC)		(Link)

mr vex! email me your phone number & Justin's too? I've lost my phone.

Missing you. Visit soon. x

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 21st, 2005 05:40 pm (UTC)		(Link)
No Clue

I'm a very intelligent person, with a very good job. I believe every word in the Bible as literal ... God would not have written it and NOT mean ever word in it. DUH! So, I'm intelligent, etc., but I'm a born-again evangelical Christian. So, explain that away in your usual bullshit wordy ways! You and your like, use a lot of big words which really add up to nothing, if not just a bunch of confusion. Satan is the father of lies and confusion. Oh, excuse me, I forgot, you are one of his followers. No need to explain!

	From: vexen	Date: June 21st, 2005 06:51 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: No Clue

Problem is with your theory is that WE wrote the Bible, multiple human beings wrote multiple texts that were only later compiled into a Bible... there is no "Bible written by God" as a single entity, only a mass of already-written texts that WE chose to compile, from hundreds of potential canons.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 21st, 2005 05:41 pm (UTC)		(Link)
God

The one and true God is not a "religion", but a relationship with Him, the Almighty.

	From: vexen	Date: June 9th, 2005 02:21 pm (UTC)		(Link)

That's interesting stuff, thank you for the comments.

Is Spinoza's following/writing normally considered a "sect of Judaism"? I always thought it was more like part of Hinduism or Indian belief. I've only seen the name in relationship to pantheism and mysticism, and haven't heard of a Jewish connection to his writings before.

Erm, could you list a few of the sects of Judaism? I wish I knew more about Judaism in general, it's obviously had major effects on all Western religion, yet I don't know much of it's (modern) history, aside from the (secular, irrelevant) politics of Israel.

The Judaic reference to "adversists" makes sense to me, within the tradition of the Hebrew scriptures.

From: hybridmaster	Date: June 10th, 2005 02:00 am (UTC)		(Link)
Some basic and unrealized knowledge of judaism

I'll give you names of the common Jewish sects. The order is open to interpretation (Humanistic, Jewish Renewal, Reconstructionist, Reform, Conservative, Orthodox, Hasidim, and true Kabbalist). The difference between them is how open they are to other people and observance of the laws (Halacha). Yisrael (Israel) means to wrestle with god. In today's world we do just that trying to find our connection with god. Humanistic adopt Judaism ideology, but they don't practice the ritual as often. Reform was created to fix the flaws in traditional Judaism by helping others outside of the Jewish community as an example. Reconstructionist took it one step further and created Judaism as a society. Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, and Orthodox vary in level of observance and whether they help others then them self. The Chasidim and Kabbalist show their love to god through their actions and enjoyment during prayer, and some of them have a possible connection with god and its power.

The mysterious connection with Spinoza and Judaism is the fact his ideas are the same as the kaballist except they express them in opposite ways(paradox). In fact, Spinoza started off knowing the kabbalah at a young age. I usually call Spinoza's philosophy scientific Judaism. The idea that god is the only one spawns from the kabballah's theory that god was a ball of light and everything was created from it, and is still a part of the original one source after shattering(differentiating). It is our job to restore this sacred light {Echad (one)} by becoming one (integration). Spinoza points out we could do this naturally and not religiously I believe. It's been a while since I have read Spinoza. Spinoza is a perfect example against free will beside the point his philosophy is against it. Spinoza grew up an extremely knowledgeable Jew, and ended up trying to go against the religion. Spinoza was the only Jew to be internationally recognized as excommunicated, and a lot of what he said is ture, but the Jews didn't want change to his ideals. Instead, he creates a paradox, which parallels most of Judaism mystical ideals as well as sufism.

A lot of people try to hide the fact that judaism has a connection with more then itself. The Torah is a complete basic guide to human nature. It has a hard time with complex situations, but you can find almost any basic human interaction in the Torah. All religions and philosophies has some connection with Judaism. Because, one day, we are suppose to integrate as one despite our differences. At least, that is what judaism's system and role in the universe is heading towards.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 21st, 2005 05:52 pm (UTC)		(Link)
God is Grieving

You, a Jew, are one of God's chosen people through the Abrahamic Covenant. You are to be proclaiming Him! Judaism is NOT satanic. God and Satan do not work together. I really don't know where people get all this junk. God is counting on you! You are one of His chosen! He has a special plan for you and all the Jews. There will be 144,000 Jews that will evangelize the world during the tribulation. The Jews have a great part in God's plan. However, the one statement you made about the Jews waiting for the Temple to be rebuilt is true. And it states so in the Bible. And, for your information, the Anti-Christ, during the seven-year tribulation will make a peace treaty with Israel and ALLOW them to rebuild the Temple. However, since the Jews are the arch enemy of Satan (due to the Jews being the chosen people of God), the Anti-Christ breaks the truce with the Jews at the mid-point of the Tribulation ... about 3 1/2 years into the great tribulation on earth. Then the Anti-Christ comes and sits upon the Temple himself and desecrates it, then declares himself as god and demands worship. Satan's plan, from the beginning, is to destroy and eliminate all jews ... therefore thwarting God's plan. Just look at how the Jews are hated, etc. in the world. Wonder why? Because Satan knows his time is coming to an end and, arrogantly I might add, thinks if he wipes the Jews off the earth and turns everyone away from God/Jesus, he will win. Well, he doesn't, but he's sure going to try! Please seek God.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 22nd, 2005 02:23 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: God is Grieving

as a future mathematician, I know theoretically that everything in the universe has an opposite. The adversary is theoretically god's opposite. We treat it as physical being not a spiritual force. It is known that the adversary control the snake that told adam and eve to eat from the tree of good and evil(knowledge) There is a opposite creation story in Judaism called Lilith(http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/~humm/Topics/Lilith/lilith.html) .She is rumored to be adams first wife before eve was created. Ill give you the website to research Lilith if interested
In the universe we understand there is a balance between the opposites in order for there to be existence. Take the adversary away there would be no force of change. So, there could be no existence. It was the adversary that lead adam and eve to eat from the tree of good and evil. What happens when the adversary is destroyed? Can there be a heaven? we will never know because we all be dead one way are another before we go there. Plus, there is no change in heaven meaning it is pure light (nothingness), which parallels pure darkness (nothingness). 0 = 0 creates perfect order. it doesn't matter which direction we go. the universal law of entropy (degradation) or (weakening) catches up sooner or later
If you got this far, one of the main jobs as a jew is tikkun olam (repairing the world) by becoming one (echad) or (integrating our ideas). There is a belief that each of us good or evil carries a piece that was part of god (the perfect order) or (universe) when it differentiated (separated). a lot who study religion don't realize that in there teachings that god is not perfect. Creation (separation from god) is the example that shows it. Why create? god can't be alone unless it separates from us(forms of itself) or (images)! why is it the jews job to put it back together (tikkun olam)? now you'll have to answer that one. also, why would god want to be alone? why not remain a perfect source of light? We know that there are stroies of god interacting, but is it possible for god who seperated itself from us to modify its creation?

	From: vexen	Date: June 21st, 2011 01:53 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: God is Grieving

What a load of waffle.