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Who were the original Christians/

  1. Ebionite Christians were the true Christians: Aramaic-speakers like Jesus and his apostles, they would have been the Jewish witnesses to Jesus' ministry and preaching. From this starting point, Jesus' teachings spread. They also, however, spread from Saul of Damascus, who renamed himself Paul and who preached an anti-Ebionite version of Christianity for the gentiles, which was much easier to follow and more popular.
  1. Gnostic Christians: With stories, myths and beliefs that are exactly the same as Christian ones in many of the little details, gnostic beliefs manage to pre-date Christians ones by over 200 years. They understood what the stories of the NT really meant. Jesus didn't really exist, but was a collection of such earlier stories, rewritten in Greek, with Greek names. This is the approach taken by historians such as Freke & Gandy.

  2. Pauline / Roman Christians: When the Roman-backed instance of Christianity went in search of the ancient centres of Christianity, they discovered to their horror that the Ebionites and Gnostics pre-dated them. Their un-Christian answer was to edit verses, burn books, arrest and harass the other poverty-stricken Christians until no opposition was left. The form of Christianity that we have inherited from the Roman Empire is far from what Christianity originally was.
Added to: "Types of Christianity: Who were the original Christians?" by Vexen Crabtree

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The First Christians Were...

(Anonymous)
THE JEWS! Please, Please remember, Jesus was a Jew and he preached to the Jews FIRST. Also, Paul did not change his own name from Saul to Paul, GOD DID. No matter how much you want to obliterate God/Jesus He always was, is and will be there. You WILL meet Him when you die, you can bet your life on it. :>

Pre-Christians????

(Anonymous)
There can be no such thing as a pre-Christian. For, until God sent His son Jesus to the earth, there were NO Christians. Jesus (WHO WAS JEWISH by divine providence) visited a short 33 years on this earth, with only the last three (3) years of His life preaching the Kingdom of God. In those three (3) years He chose His Apostles, which were ALL JEWS. Yes, Matthew, Mark, Paul, Peter, etc. were all JEWS. To much of some people's dismay, especially misinformed Christians, they were not Irish Catholics and Jesus did not have blue eyes and blond hair. God had always intended the Mesiah, Jesus, would be Jewish and be a direct decendant of Abraham, from the line of David, the Tribe of Judah. Do a little geneology and you will discover right up to the Virgin Mary (who was JEWISH), Jesus is a decendant of Abraham by divine set-up by God. "For Salvation is from the Jews." (Jesus' own words). Jesus was sent to be the Jewish Mesiah. Us "gentiles" were grafted in. Anyway, back to my original point, there were never any Christians prior to Jesus coming to the earth and, the first ones were the Apostles, who were ALL Jewish. I mean the word "CHRISTian" is derived from Jesus CHRIST. And, as footnote, to be anti-Christian is to also be anti-semitic. Food for thought. :>

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