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Satanic Parenting

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WHY?

(Anonymous)
Why be a satanist? It is to my understanding that satan is evil and does not want the best thing for anyone. He, from what I know, would more likely use a soul to get what he wants and not to help. So WHY get involved in such a thing as satanic rituals and the religion? When all it is doing is promoting evil. I don't see why someone would get involved in this type of thing if they are to receive nothing in return. Or if they think that they will be protected if the devil will rise up and take over, are STUPID because why would he or it care. And why would you want to promote sin and make others hurt that are not the same as you? I also don't understand why you people (the satanists) like to praise something that stands for such evil. I am not a what you may call a "do gooder", I don't even go to church, but I don't do something so dumb as to praise the devil, and want him or it or whatever, to take over and lead us his way when all he wants to do is reek havoc and mayhem. So I ask this, what is your problem for committing yourself to such a stupid act of satanism? What do you expect to get in return? And would you like everything in the world to be evil? Oh and one more thing, don't give me an answer like "you don't understan" because that is such a B.S answer.
-- from a 16 year old high school student (Annapolis Maryland)

You appear to know that my response is going to be "you don't understand", so, given that you are not actually interesting in understanding and appear to just want to pour our your limited, inane Christian stupidity why don't you fuck off and go put your head under the sand, where it's obviously been whilst reading this site?

Your "god" hasn't exactly been well behaved either... for example volcanoes that cause suffering of innocent people, death on a large scale, long term injuries and emotional turmoil for families and communities... and yet you think it's ok to "praise God"? How so?

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lionheart_209@yahoo.com

(Anonymous)
You speak of your childs free will,God gave everyone the gift of choice,however There is a correct choice and a wrong one. Human nature is to be rebelious,and to want to be our own God. To be saved from hell's fire and eternal damnation,people must accept Jesus Christ as their savious. And to accept him you must live within the guidelines of a Christian. Human nature resents that!
And will resist it,when becoming a Christian You receive the Holy spirits comfort and strength. So you see everyone has a choice and thats not threatened. But what is a valid concern is what people choose. The right choice or the wrong one.
In the afterlife,you'll find out:)
<>< God bless

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Jesus Christ, what is it with Christians? Your entire message just name-dropped Jesus, God and the Holy Spirit but didn't actually contain any information at all other than crappy religious proselytisation!... if you're going to comment, at least try to see if you can fit in something intellectual or interesting, and not text-book Christian mindlessness?

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physician, heal thyself

(Anonymous)
i am a muslim. and as an order from ALLAH the LORD(omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient) i have to seek knowledge. so, one day i came across satanism in a very early age. since then i was interested in it. but it never appealed to me. it was because islam provides me with greater ideals compatible with life on earth. unlike the christian god, ALLAH is the truth. and the truth is transcendent and it is incomprehensible, something real deep thinking human beings eventually worship.satanists claim that they are free.ok. fine. but are they really. if they are why do they label themselves to be satanist. they are free to do anything free to call themselves anything.....and free to study anything.and it is ALLAH who orders man to know HIM by reason and from a neutral point of view.It is written in the Quran.and if satanists are free from orthodoxy of religion of christianity why do they have their own commandments, why all the ceremonial occassions and finally why do they call themselves satanists ata all.it is the nature of humans to think freely and worship freely(again a reference from the Quran).i mean take the credit for yourselves people.it is your nature, not satans.and being of free thought means being able to accept ideas new and amazing, not being such fanatics as satanists are.you satanists are alos in the same problem as the church is.

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(Anonymous)
Muslims are more a cult than a religion. Mohammed himself was a warlord such as Sadaam Hussain. Not only that he was a pedophile. These are not wild accusations ,these are history documented facts,he wed a girl who was 6 yrs old.then had sex with her at age 8. Many of his followers only aided him because he threatened their lives.
The Quran is nothing more than a distorted version of the bible.
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Satanism

(Anonymous)
Hello there, I am just a girl who doesn't quite know what religion to belive in. I was born Christian, but I dont' like it. There are many rules and sins that I brake and find dumb. I was reading alot on Santanism and I found everything very cool and interesting, I know I shouldn't just be playing around with this kind of thing, but do Satanists HATE all other people? and all other religions?

No, Satanists do not hate all people. I personally and not a hateful person, it takes a great deal to make me hate something.

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Satanists should not be allowed to have children.

If you knew what SATANISM really is, you'd think otherwise, trust me. Most Satanists are very good parents. Especially those who raise their children into Satanism also, like Anton LaVey.

I like your essay--nice job putting it all together. It was especially refreshing to read comments from other parents. And to see that I'm not the only parent who believes strongly in a child's freedom to decide without feeling pressured by family.


satanic upbringing

(Anonymous)
I agree that parents should be allowed to bring their children up as they see fit.But should they not at least wait until they canunderstand whats going on?
They should be aware of what they are getting into, ie Persecution, abuse from class mates,even being rejected from society during their teenage years. Any comments good or bad, gkadly excepted. Thanks for reading this.

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(Anonymous)
I agree that parents should be able to bring their kids up how tey see fit. To a certain extent. Some people believe you should not spank your children,I was spanked as a child and think I turned out ok,as long as the line between spank and abuse is not crossed. As far as religion I believe that a child should be able to choose his/her own religion. After all thats probably going to happen anyway once they are grown.
God understands different scenarios,and will be there for people when they decide to come to him. If they never learn or hear of him,they will still be saved. For there is no sin in ignorance.

SatanicParenting

(Anonymous)
As a Satanist who is a parent and currently pregnnt with my second child, the only hope I have for my children is that they have open minds. Obviously I will be dissapointed if they decide on a path thats not the left hand one. But my love and support are unconditional.

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(Anonymous)
Parenting is very tough sometimes.But you should be close with your kids and support their decisions because not always the kids chose the path we've wanted them to take.
Cara Fletcher
http://www.justanotherday.net/

I have never seen anything that I liked so much. This web site is very well done.

"My 12 year old goes to church with my wife every Sunday. He does it through choice though and actually volunteered to be an altar boy."

It startled me to hear that a Satanist would actually marry a christian church-goer. I never would have thought that such people would exist, especially Satanists; people who would marry someone who was part of the organization that was the complete opposite of his/her own. I do not understand this. My thoughts on this is if you truly loved your child(ren), you would raise them to not be deceived by the lies of the media and the christian church! If I ever were to consider becoming a parent, I would most definitely raise them into my (LaVey's) philosophy: Satanism.

Hi,

I would love to get into contact with the person that said "My 12 year old goes to church with my wife every Sunday. He does it through choice though and actually volunteered to be an altar boy."

If anyone has any details that would be great

rachel.clarke@shinelimited.com

If you are a Satanist and you are a parent, you should raise your kids to be Satanists. This is all I have to say, and it is right.

Looking for satanist parents for new television programme

(Anonymous)
Hi my name is Rachel Clarke and I'm a reseacher for Shine television company in the UK. We are currently looking for parents who are satanists that would like to take part in a programme about this subject. If you know of anyone that might be interested, please ask them to get into contact with me,

Many thanks and I hope to hear from you soon
Rachel

you stupid uneducated derrallycts, how dare you make a satan a god. you narrow minded idiotic filthy specimens. you should be beheaded and the remains of ure decomposed bodies should be give to hungry dogs. you worthless peices of excrement.juste for the record u are on the right track to fulfilling ure very stupid fantasies. you will one day become dwellers of a raging fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mather fackers..........

It is VERY ironic that YOU, with YOUR spelling and attitude, call anyone else uneducated, and that you also, with your prejudice, hate and ranting, call anyone else narrow minded! Oh my god, are you like making fun of yourself or something by trying to be as a big of a hypocrite as possible?!

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Stupid people

(Anonymous)
Good Day and Goddess Bless to all of you. I am a neo-pagan who found myself in a position to defend your principles here recently. My Hand fasting partner has a brother who has a "Wife" who Actually made the stupid comment at the dinner table about "How Satanist are suppose to kill and eat babies in their rituals." I "Jumped up" and corrected that nonsense, (tho her story starts with a B and ends with an H) she kept on about the "Evil satanists." I can not believe such SHIT is still going on! Satanist are as good a parent as anyone else, my daughter has embraced the teachings of Satanism and my grandson is being brought up in "The craft". Hey we are all "Good" with it, but I can't get over how STUPID some people are. I truly believe that we neo-pagans and satanist are a hell of a lot more tolerant of them, than they are of us! I thought I'd "share" with you this message of unity for all NON CHRISTIANS. Have a great day.

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I find it stupid that you are teaching your kids that way. They are too young to be making a decision about organized religion. It makes you no better than a christian, forcing religion onto a child. Makes me sick.

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Just a thought!

(Anonymous)
Its depressing, You claim to be the enlightend yet if any one so much as whispers the word satan you turn into violent torch wealding natzi`s. just a thought, did it ever occure to any of you that you might have got it wrong?. Mabye the creature you worship didn`t create anything, maybe its just hungry?. churches built on converging dragon lines (earth energy really hits the spot), that witch you claim to be a soul (really slips down a treat). I would like to know?, all the millions upon millions of people who lived before your religion even came about, what happend to them when they died?. Did they all go to hell or just cease to be?. It seems any time something good happens it was an act of your god, any time something bad happens it was an act of nature or an act of man, that is a great get out cluase!. Lastly all the ghost monks and nuns floating about there is an awfull lot of them they didn`t qiute go were they where supposed to. Now for the question, parental satanism. satanist`s are some of the most open easy giong people your`e ever likely to meet. They don`t pressure their child into decision`s of religion. They don`t force them to believe or suffer the consiquences, and they don`t perform wierd twisted rituals those guy`s are just nutters. If only in this free and understanding world you could mention your belief system or the way you raise your child to be who they want to be, without fear of the violently ignorant or social exclusion. i swear if you christains could invent a ritual to claim the essence of a child while it was still in the womb there`d be no stopping you. When you read this post and the violent ones swear and rant and the interllectual of you use your words of LOST and FOOLISH and just not aware of your "true" way, i hope they are an effective balm to your doubts and your instincts telling you mabye just maybe somethings not right...

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