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The Number 12: Disciples, Tribes and the Zodiac
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 7th, 2007 02:11 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: 12 Tribes of Israel

Prove that they are "mythical."
vexen From: vexen Date: September 7th, 2007 06:17 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: 12 Tribes of Israel

According to Sherwin Wine, the major exponent of Humanistic Judaism, the traditional conception of Jewish history is mistaken. In his view, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob never existed. Furthermore, the Exodus account is a myth: 'There is no historical evidence to substantiate a massive Hebrew departure from the land of the Pharaohs. As far as we can surmise, the Hebrew occupation of the hill country on both sides of the Jordan was continuous. The 12 tribes never left their ancestral land, never endured 400 years of slavery, and never wandered the Sinai desert.' Moreover, Moses was not the leader of the Hebrews, nor did he compose the Torah. In this light, it is an error to regard the biblical account as authoritative; rather it is a human record of the history of the Israelite nation, the purpose of which is to reinforce the faith of the Jewish nation.

"Encyclopedia of New Religions" by Prof. Christopher Partridge, p118

Other historians such as Prof. Bart Ehrman, etc, have also pointed out that there is little historical evidence behind such symbolic stories in the Hebrew Scriptures.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 9th, 2007 10:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: 12 Tribes of Israel

I would bet that Sherwin Wine is "secular" and DOES NOT believe in God. Mr. Wine is not God.
vexen From: vexen Date: October 17th, 2008 09:34 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: 12 Tribes of Israel

You asked for evidence, and there it is, in a professional book on comparative religion by one scholar, commenting positively on the views of another. Whether or not any of them believe in God does not change the historical evidence as to whether or not the 12 tribes of Israel were real. They are a symbolic part of mythology, and will remain that way unless you can find historical evidence to the contrary.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 13th, 2012 01:24 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: 12 Tribes of Israel

To sum all this up check out hebrew



I am sure it will be painful for you to see, but watch it anyway and find some crapy book to dispute it.

It is simple, obey the ten commandments
follow the dietary laws
pray for israel

and live your life, no religion involved
vexen From: vexen Date: September 13th, 2012 05:45 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: 12 Tribes of Israel

No religion involved? So then you don't have to obey the ten commandments (half of which are religious, not ethical), and don't have to follow the (religious) dietary laws, and don't have to pray (which is religious). So what was the point of your message if no religion is involved?
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