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"The Symbolism of Satanism" by Vexen Crabtree

Enemas (well, colognic irrigation, which I believe is different in some way) are good for you and clear all the previously built-up crap out of your system.

A bit like Satanism, then? :)

Soul

(Anonymous)

2002-11-17 07:11 pm (UTC)

I'm really being serious with this question.....

How do I get the devil to take my soul.... Ive been trying to make a deal with the devil and it's not working for me... he won't do it... why isn't he doing it..... and would somebody please inform me the name of the devil's coming baby... its something with a q... its really important that I find out

Re: Soul

(Anonymous)

2003-02-02 11:37 am (UTC)

u cant ...
quintin taranteeno

hmmm

(Anonymous)

2003-08-09 11:27 pm (UTC)

still not sure where the truth is... I know christianity is not the answer to the truth. but anti-christian is not the path to the real light too... many other paths to explore... too many! and I must keep reminding myself of this!

what about the love?

(Anonymous)

2003-09-29 03:11 pm (UTC)

satanism seems to project the message to trust no one and that love is a weakness. it's not true. love is a gift, and one of the few pleasures in society today. i'm not christian, i never havee been. but if you're like me and don't like the oppresive teachings of tthe bible, don't swing far to tthe other. become buddist, or jainist.

Re: what about the love?

vexen

2003-09-29 03:29 pm (UTC)

Love is the most amazing, powerful and worthwhile emotion, built on trust and fortitude, it matures people and makes them great. Love is not absent from Satanism, it is a natural human emotion, and a very gratifying one at that. Better than sex!

Re: what about the love?

vexen

2003-09-29 03:31 pm (UTC)

I don't believe that a Dragon holds a wheel of life, in which people are constantly reincarnated. I don't believe in reincarnation, karma, the Buddhist pantheon of beings, or the Hindu pantheon of beings or in Hindu, Buddhist- or Jain- spirituality or theology, so, therefore, becoming a buddhist or jainist is rather quite impossible for me and many others, and in addition, if I did pretend to be one it would be a hollow facade and a deceitful veneer.

It's easier just to be yourself, and continue to become yourself!

satanism & fascism

(Anonymous)

2003-12-06 11:55 pm (UTC)

I do not completely agree with the notion that fascism and satanism are alike, you see, acording to Umberto Eco's definition of fascism, it is more like cristian religions, i'll attach 14 points that describe fascims as written in the utne reader. I'm not a satanic myself, but i deeply respect your philosophy, since it resembles my own line of thought

1. The first feature of Ur-Fascism is the cult of tradition: satanism, as defined in your page, is against all tradition, since clingin to the past is useless, and against evolution, wich is part of nature




2. Traditionalism implies the rejection of modernism. since you are an intelligent man, I will not demonstrate this point futher.

3. Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake. this point, although agrees with satanism and also japanese Zen, as well as my own idea, we must act, for action is the only certainty.

4. The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. for a fascist, modernism, is against the system, and striving to improve is the driving force of nature.

5. Besides, disagreement is a sign of diversity. here is an example of a cardinal rule of christian thought, fascism and christianity have that in common, they both have dogmas, and to disregard those dogmas is punished by death and shuning from the herd, like it was with galileo and every great thinker of old times, as well as modern days.

6. Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.
frustrated people reource to fascism, and from what i've read and my own experience, satanists, are all things but frustrated.

7. To people who feel deprived of a clear social identity, Ur-Fascism says that their only privilege is the most common one, to be born in the same country.

8. The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. i really don't think satanists, are envious, at least i'm not, if wealth offends me, i make wealth of my own, and i try to have more force than most, because, that's the law of nature;but i digress...

9. For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.
"Live and let die"... I've always liked that phrase, for it is very true, if a person is really intelligent, they will see life like that...

10. Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology, insofar as it is fundamentally aristocratic, and aristocratic and militaristic elitism cruelly implies contempt for the weak.

11. In such a perspective everybody is educated to become a hero.

12. Since both permanent war and heroism are difficult games to play, the Ur-Fascist transfers his will to power to sexual matters.

This is the origin of machismo (which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality). Since even sex is a difficult game to play, the Ur-Fascist hero tends to play with weapons -- doing so becomes an ersatz phallic exercise.

13. Ur-Fascism is based upon a selective populism.


14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak.


It is noticed that i did not ellaborate on some points, for they're not relevant for this message, still, i wanted to note all of them, so you can make a correction, and so make the difference between a complex, smart doctrine -if I may say so- like satanism; and a mind control technique, very much in the style of organized religion (a phallacy) much in the likes of islam and catolic religions.

if you read this cool; if you don't just he same


any unbelievers in Jesus Christ are decieved, plain and simple. You send yourself to Hell,
satan does not care about you as a razor loves to rip you up when you cut yourself, who is laughing now. Your outside will perish, repent while today is the day of salvation, you cannot shock the Lord God Almighty...

I'm not sure I have a point

(Anonymous)

2004-05-19 04:01 pm (UTC)

I have this odd desire to say something to you. I feel that there is some hole in your thinking. I'm obviously trying to be judgmental, but I don't have any desire to cram Jesus down your throat for any reason. In fact, I've never understood people who try to convince others with points they accept only through faith, to people who don't share the same faith. Anyway, it seems to me that Satanism preaches individualism, to an extreme. Yet, to me it's almost as if you're just jumping on another bandwagon. Maybe it's one that not so mainstream, but it certainly is becoming that way. Judging completely on looks, a good example of this is the popularity of the clothing store "Hot Topic." Anyone who desires to be different can simply go into that store, buy the pants with chains, and the tight mesh shirt, and rip holes in it, wear, and suddenly be "different" Eventhough they look just like the other 3000 people who bought that same exact outfit. I did notice that you mentioned that following a certain group of people mindlessly is okay, as long as it benefits you. I don't really see though how following this faith is necessarily beneficial. First off, you're joining in on a craze that isn't accepted by mainstream culture. This can cause a lot of pain. It's understandable that some people would do this, because they have hope to get something good out of it. But in your situation you really don't. There is no heaven to look forward, no pie in the sky, why do you willingly put yourself up for criticism and social rebuke. You may beg that you're simply being true to yourself, and following truth, which i'm sure all would agree is much better than living in ignorance even if you don't have a certain hope factor. But how do you know this is truth? I mean obviously you need faith, that's required for simply living, but how do you know that this faith you've accepted is the right one? How do you know that you haven't just mindlessly jumped on a not-so-mainstream bandwagon? Maybe your entire faith was made up to fulfill human's natural desires, but do you ever really feel fulfilled? I mean, is it even possible to be fulfilled? Tough questions to ask, right? I mean, that's the whole purpose of religion to answer life's unanswerable questions. Or maybe the entire purpose of religion is to give life purpose or just hope. Maybe all religion is just made up to fulfill some unfulfillable desire in human beings. But why do we have this unfulfillable desire. Is it simply a evolutionary trait? Does it just benefit our race because we work harder, or maybe it's the opposite, maybe it hurts our race because we do dumb things to fulfill it that actually end up hurting us. Or maybe God, or a higher power gave us this unfulfillable desire. I don't suppose that I'll ever know, at least, while i'm on earth. I think what i'm trying to get to here through all of this incomprehensible mess is that faith requires not knowing something, and it requires that as humans we sometimes blindly follow something. So it's not fair for you as followers of Satan, or self, or whatever you're following to be critical about those who have chosen a different faith, because it seems to me that when it comes down to it, those who have chosen different faiths have better qualities of life. So if you're looking for an answer, and you still desire to be completely true to number 1 only, then maybe you should consider a faith that is more fulfilling, that allows you to be happy, and at the same time be yourself. I don't know what faith that is, but it doesn't seem to me that following Satan does that.

Re: I'm not sure I have a point

(Anonymous)

2004-11-30 12:20 pm (UTC)

Good writing...and religions give ppl hope and something they miss in life or just to better themself as persons,but just thinking of oneself cant be fullfilling so satanism must be very hollowing to oneself...no hope,no faith and no nothing....must be very lonely on your planet.

Re: I'm not sure I have a point

(Anonymous)

2005-07-10 01:14 pm (UTC)

Yes but I just, purely and simply don't buy it, can't buy it. I don't believe it. It dunna make sense. I feel and 'know' there is no god from the bottom of my soul ;) I wish I could believe. It would give a focus and point to existence. But I don't and can't.

Re: I'm not sure I have a point

(Anonymous)

2009-05-14 10:04 am (UTC)

you do have a god an you but a stronger one an you just hsve to release your power in become strong

my name is

(Anonymous)

2006-05-11 03:23 pm (UTC)

DioMon and my father is the Sors

Vexen, I have enjoyed your thoughts and writing for some time now. I just have to give you props. Keep up the good work.

Shane Gilliam

I see i read a lot about you guys you are your own people your own god how do you jone the Satanism

why do people belive in the god an satan

LaVey Jewish

(Anonymous)

2009-10-22 10:54 am (UTC)

I have been told that LaVey was part Jewish and part Gypsy, out of intrest is there any fact to this statement ?

Who cares?

The Modern, Respectable SOC

(Anonymous)

2009-10-22 11:02 am (UTC)

Why is the Church trying to appear so respectable, modern and reasonable, is Satanism concerned with such things..?

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