Vexen Crabtree 2015


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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

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The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason, observation, and experience merits everlasting pain, is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and ignorance called ‘faith.’
~ Robert G. Ingersoll

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Dearest Vexen

First and foremost I would like to say that my observation and perception of you is not of a goat but a lost sheep, and is it that the reason in which I wish and desire to communicate with you. Christ the great Shepard seeks those who are lost and are in the midst of ravening wolves. It is the Shepard that puts this great burden for you in the depst of my heart. And with his great mercy and grace He extends his rod of TRUTH. It is truth that you seek above all and faith that hinders you because you rely on Doubt. It is easier to Doubt like Doubting Thomas than to believe that it is the wounds of nails in the Prince of Peaces Hands. Because of Agape I speak to you and reason with you because I know Lucifer personally. I am his Princess, too. As well as my beloved Prince of Peace Jesus. Lucifer is full of aggression and anger, rage beyond reason. And it will be at the final and last battle between GOOD and EVIL JEHOVAH and SATAN. I am a warrior PRINCESS. FIrst my role is as a princess because I posess all the elements, air, water, fire, earth and metal. I am the key to the Heavens. My great grandfater was Peter the Apostle. Whom in Mathew 16:16 Jesus gave the keys to the heavens to Peter. I am His great great great ......grand daughter. He was the first man to have such great faith as to admit that Jesus is Christ and indeed SON OF GOD. It was because of Satan that He and I DOUBTED HIm THRICE before the cock crow at midnight. That is why I am burning the MIDNIGHT OIL FOR YOU VEXEN CRABTREE. G-d Loves you unconditionally. These word that speak are not in vain because my labor with you is not in vain. I will reap fruit. Because they that sow in tears shall reap in JOY. YOu will be a joy to be and to the SHepard, All the angels in Heaven rejoice when a lost sheep is found. Christ found you, Fear not the ravining wolves around you. Redemtion is nigh. I love you my brother in Christ.

Peace on Earth, Good will toward men. I am the key to the heavens that will Bring PEace on earth. Truely this is of a truth. Doubt not but believe. Miracles Happen. God works in mysterious ways His wonders to perform.

Princess Camelia

p.s sending a smile across the miles :)

Re: Dearest Vexen

1. If there was a God, it wouldn't need to find anyone, because it would be all-powerful. So I don't understand your metaphors about goats and sheep.

2. I seek the truth, it is true, and that is why I embrace doubt, because it allows for scepticism and carefulness. But, I don't care which path is "easier" or "harder". It might be easier to doubt, but, that something is easy or hard does not constitute evidence as to what is true.

3. Are you ever going to give up...

Re: Dearest Vexen

Winston Churchill put it best..... NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER GIVE UP!


i LOVE u!

PRINCESS camelia

If there was a God, it wouldn't need to find anyone, because it would be all-powerful. So I don't understand your metaphors about goats and sheep.

The suggestion is that goats find their own way and are independent (a bit like cats, really; herding goats is similar to herding cats!) whereas sheep need a shepherd to guide them safely. The implication here is not that God needs to go find you - He knows exactly where you are and the thoughts in your heart. She is suggesting that you are a lost sheep who has fallen by the wayside and doesn't realise that the Shepherd has found you and wants to guide you to safety; He is merely waiting for you to realise this too and turn to Him. He will not coerce or force you to follow, however, because unlike the angels, He gave Man free will.

OK, nice bit of general evangelism but at the risk of sounding like Jeremy Paxman would you like to have a go at answering the question implicit in Vexen's original post.

This whole worship Jesus and have total profess total faith in him (weather you believe it or not) or end up suffering an eternity of torment thing, It's basically just a metaphysical protection racket isn't it?

"Say, that's a real nice soul ya got there! Be a shame if something were to happen to it, now wouldn't it?"

Re: Dearest Vexen

THe LORD REBUKE YOU SATAN and go back to the pit of hell where you came from. God is way bigger, better, and stronger than you. I claimed him for God a long time ago. the battle has just begun, but victory is in JESUS!

Warrior Princess Camelia

Re: Dearest Vexen

Mr Dresen, meet my stalker Camelia, and Camelia, be nice to my long-term friends ok!

Re: Dearest Vexen

Bring it on!

Re: Dearest Vexen

I just want to let you know that Lucifer is right here next to me and I am personally kicking his a**, so as to your bring it on. It is on and I am personally fighting Lucifer for you!

Ok what do you think about that!

I am a Warrior Princess!

Eye Agape U

to infinity and beyond!

Sending a smile and a big bear hug to you Vexen!

Love ya,

I always took a slightly more belligerent view of the christian church's claim that if you don't worship god you go to hell. If the reason to worship god or Jesus is basically a threat then I much prefer to stand up to him along side my fellow humans. I've never given in to bullies and that goes double for petty despots.

That is of course if the christian church has got it right, however I'm do not believe their view is proven so if god dose exist I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt unless and until the veracity of this rumor can be established.

Dear Vexen,


Princess Camelia

p.s sending a smile across the miles. Peace on Earth!

I just have to add that you have the most beautiful eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EYE Agape U!

Princess Camelia

p.s sending a huge smile across the miles!

Ha, funny play on words/letters :-)

First of all, I took a look at Universalism whatever that is and it sound just like another religeon, it's not about faith or doubt. It is about Reality. When that makes sense then it might seem like nonesense but it really will make a whole lot of cents *sense*

Vexen I love you!


Dearst blue eyes sexy handsome Vexen,
Do you want to know more or should I rest for the night it's almost five in the morning here in Phoenix, Arizona.

Where are you at?

your friend,

I'm back in Germany now, got a month off of work after working hard in Afghanistan! I have enough books on Christianity to know enough about it, thanks!

Did you know that Hitler is my neighbor! how about love thy neighbor when Hitler is my Nazi neighbor. I am so serious about that too. And Lucifer is right here with me in my cozy little pad.

Hmmmm, your cozy little pad wouldn't be so named because it has padded walls would it?

See last month Lucifer, or Lance as he likes to be called, well we had a heated argument and I pissed him off cause he wanted to use me to release all the demons from hell that were locked up. Well, ladies, and gents, we ar living in the last days. Only four more years till the tribulation. The four hourseman of the Apocolyse are coming starting 2009. Three trumpets have been blown only four more trumpets to blow. Then the final trumpet and Jesus is coming back.

I did say Hi to Hitler on his way up from Hell. He is now my neighbor no joke.


Actually it's home sweet home I live in a cozy flat here at this complex called Olive Tree in Glendale, Arizona.

sending lots of warm love and a sexy yet happy smile your way vexen!

rotfwl, I didn't know you had a sharp end, Ian!

I have been accused of having a very sharp sense of humour sometimes...

Thank you kindly sister for your correct words of inspiration at this time of need.


Ask her if Ghandi went to hell. Works every time ;)

And you have so pulled dude.

That's not even funny. I think she started on MySpace over a year ago.

It must be your dashing good looks and superior manliness ;)


First of all DUDE!
It's not about who is in hell because a few days ago. I released all the freaking demons from hell and not they moved on up to my neighborhood.

We wrestle not against flesh and blood but against Spiritualities and powers of darkness.

With that said, I will sing to you a song.

"This little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine, this little light of mine, I'm going to let it shine, let it shine , let it shine, let it shine. Won't let Satan blow it out. NO I'm going to let it shine.

Lots of Love,

xoxoxoxoxooxxooxxoxoxooxo eye agape you vexen crabtreexoxoxoxoxooxoxoxxo

warrior princess camelia

She's a troll. She'll probably want to burn me at the stake next ;)

She's female...

Theres probably a big queue waiting to burn you at the stake...

Heheh. You may have a point ;)

Re: Dude

First of I am a Princess, I have the keys to heaven. I will bring peace on earth it is call the NEw Jerusalem. It is a city coming from heaven. With a crystal sea, no more pain, no more tears, no more saddness. G-d will be on earth for a 1000 years. Satan will be bound up in the bottemless pit by Appolyn and locked there for 1000 years. After the thousand years there will be a great battle on Mount Megido call Armegedon. It will be the final battle for G-d's VIctory. After his defeat Lucifer will come home to G-d in Heaven. Lucifer will have a big feast for Him and G-d will reward him with G-d's Robe and Ring. And all the rebellious Angels will have a reward for them too. There will be a BIG FEAST in HEAVEN when the Prodigal SON RETURNS HOME.

Love, Peace, Joy, and Freedom, and Happiness

Eye Agape U Vexen Crabtree

Warrior Princess Camelia

If Jesus said "No-one gets to the Father except through me" (John 3:16), and traditionally it is said that St Peter has the keys to heaven... how is it you say that you have them?

Re: Dude

Matthew 16:16

Jesus gave the keys to St. Peter. I am his great grand daughter. The keys were given to me by G-d.

Warrior Princess Camelia

sending all my love, xoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxooxoox hugs and kissesxoxoxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxoxoxo

p,s sending a smile across the miles

Are you actually trying to chat Vexen up? You do know there is a Mrs Crabtree, and they have been happy together for quite some time now...

*shrugs* Fair enough. But did Ghandi go to hell?

No troll has her amount of dedication. She means it.

Ooh blimey. Paranoid Schizophrenic? Obsessive compulsive? Unless you really are that buff ;)

Re: Dude

I'm a born-again Christian. DON'T listen to her. She has the scriptures almost totally twisted to the way she sees them. She's SCARY. There have been a lot of people in this world that have "quoted" scripture and invoked things in the name of Jesus; however, Jesus NEVER knew them (meaning they honor Him with their lips, but not their hearts). She sounds "disturbed." Remember all the people, including HITLER, used and twisted "scripture" to give validity to the extermination of 6 million Jewish people. It's a tool of Satan from the beginning of time. When Satan was with Jesus for the 40 days and nights of "temptation," Satan constantly threw "twisted" scripture at Jesus to try to sway Him of the Father's mission for Him here on earth. Of course, Jesus threw "correct" scripture back at Him and never gave in. Look at all the true evil nuts of this world ... they used scripture and twisted it to fit their evil desires and "duped" people into doing vile and evil things. Satan knows scripture VERY WELL, he knows who wins in the end, but is arrogant enough to go on trying to usurp God. So, for those who just say they "believe" in Jesus/God ... God says, "Even the demons believe and shudder." However, it is not a "saving belief" in God. They just know their ultimate doom and figure they will just destroy as many as they can and take a lot of people to hell with them .... that is all they can keep from believing and that, at this time, includes YOU, VEXEN CRABTREE!

You believe in Hell? And Heaven? God? You believe in angels and an evil angel Satan, and that they all battle (against an all-powerful god?) for our lives we live once we die?

And you say that she sounds disturbed because her exegesis is different to yours?

To be honest, when I was a kid, I thought by 2008 we would all be zipping around in little space vehicles, with robots doing all the real work, and computers you could talk to.

Instead, I am talking on the Internet to people squabbling over which interpretations of medieval Christian dualism are crazy and which ones true. Hah!

I reckon you two should meet, and self-implode together.

There is no God. Even if there was a god, there would be no hell.

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Maybe that makes more sense if I: *tilts head sideways*


ignorance is not bliss, i agree.

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