Vexen Crabtree 2015


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Vexen Crabtree 2015


The Furry Subculture

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I am a fur threw and threw, I have been for the last 7 years. I got to meet one of my favorite artists at MFM a Furry Meet this year. I made a lot of good friends from it and honestly there isn't a thing to be a shamed about its mostly just the media as always ruining something for everyone else.

I was wodnering if I could use your explanation to give out to my class? Would give the appropiate linkage, of course.. it's just a very good explanation, I believe.

yea if you want them to be taught wrong info.

what if someone is allergic to animals?

a new!

Hi! My name is Josh Visser and I don't have an invitation code or anything, because I am new to this and have recently been experimenting. Does anyone know if there is a furry conference near Spokane WA coming up? I really want to meet some cool peeps or animals for that matter. I would really appreciate some advice and hope to get in touch with my fellow furries soon!

>>THE<< most useful in-a-nutshell description I can possibly find. Furry r0><><0r5!!!


Never have I read such a well researched, well written, explanitory and damn good description on the aspect of furries.

A question

I have this forum for furry friends that have the desire to speak thier minds, and I was wondering if you would post the link to it on your site.

The Forum is called Furry, Inc. and I made the forum so that all furries everywhere can speak thier minds and not worry about recriminations or being ripped limb from limb.

If you have any questions, or comments please don't hesitate to email me.

I thank you for your time.


group dynamic, subcultrueand everyday life

pls give me up to fifteen pages of essay on the above topic

Buddhist Silliness

Amusing myself at work with internet sociology, I stumble 'pon your Furry essay. I am in accord with the complimentary comments already recorded, but I did notice one thing:

In the way that Buddhists strife to be like Buddha, an enlightened being, many furries are so inspired...

I thought the whole deal in Buddhism was minimizing strife ;-).

Home row troubles, of course. Easy typo to make. It certainly doesn't reduce the value of the work it's contained in. And, Buddhists being what we are, I'm sure most will just get a laugh from it.

odd but interesting

bunny lovers magazine

I'm a Dutch student at the Royal College of Art in London. I'm making a magazine for and about bunny lovers. I'd like to include an article or interview about furries. I'd like to meet somebody for an interview, or just interview somebody per e-mail. If anyone's interested you can contact me at

Kind regards, Bernadette


hey u hav enlightened me into i world i knew little about...i admire you for being so proud of it..also wanted 2 tell you that my second name is also crabtree....your the only person ive ever met who has shared this with me..
love tara crabtree (

Slight rant but you mostly rock. -|-

The sibling/kinship thing is normal in my group. Even among some non-fur friends. (My brother's a fur but doesn't exactly know it. We all know he's a cat, but he's funny about it.) Another group thing we all seem to do is tails. Any type of fur that can have a tail and we relate to, we have one in our closet somewhere. I'm primarily a raven, but have hare and raccoon tendencies too. I have a raccoon tail completed (made out of yarn), a rabbit tail in the works, and a full raven costume planned for my very first con. I find it a little sad that there are so few "featheries" as we call ourselves. Most artists won't even draw birds, or if they do, they draw them with mammaries. Y'know, BOOBS. A bird is not a mammal. Therefore: birds should not have mammaries. I have heard so many arguments against this theory, mostly having to do with artstyle, gender, and metamorphic construction and I have a few things to say about each. ^_^ But I won't burden this post any further. Wonderful site. Very informative. Maybe I'll show it to my parents. ~_^

Thank you..... =^_^=

Hey. My name is Anthony S., my E-identity is Wyntre Wolfe. I've been a furry basically all my life, but I didn't know there were others like me out there until a friend of mine, Adia, asked me if I was one. I didn't know what it was, she filled me in, I finally knew what to call my, shall we say, nonconformity. Anyway, I knew what I was, but I never really thought much about it until 15 minutes ago, when I was bored, I Googled "furry", and clicked on your article.

As I read, I literally got goosebumps. This was me in a way I'd never thought about myself before. I have to thank you, because for about the first time in my life, I actually felt accepted. And I want to do all I can to get into this group, to find other furries because I love this. I love these people. Do you perchance know of any prominent furry groups around the Dallas, TX area? If so, my email address is , and I'd appreciate any help, or just talking to someone who understands me finally. I can't thank you enough for what you've unknowingly done to help a lost soul, perhaps finally on his way to finding himself.

RE: Mutual Adoption of friends as siblings

My brother-by-choice, as I call him, is more of a brother to me than my own siblings by blood or adoption (as I am adopted as well as know my biological family).

Neither of us are into the furry culture, but I went looking for information, read your page, saw your comment, and thought I'd let you know (almost 2 years late) that in fact it's not so strange (at least to us).


This was probably the most informative thing I've ever read. It described me, as someone said above, in ways I'd never really thought of, but they were definitly big connections. I never knew it was really a "subculture" I always kinda thought it to be my own little quirk. I read this probably about 3 months ago, and since then, I've been exploring the entire furry community, from furryMUCK to the comunity on Second life. It's realy a great thing to feel such a strong connection with other people I never knew I could have before. I'm probably more comfortable with myself thanks to reading this essay. You, my friend, are amazing. Thanks for helping me feel "normal" at least in some aspect, to some people.

Again, Thanks Vexen.
~Qip (pronounced like Kip, as i've had trouble with other people understanding the name too, especialy since it's not my real name )

My own thoughts

Most seem to use "mate" in place of "significant other" or "spouse," for this is a very broad term that can denote either a transient or lifelong relationship; most seem to use the term by habit, even around non-furs. The political leanings of most furs I've encountered tend to be radical, liberal, or strongly centrist. The custom of sibling adoption, spoken or unspoken and under several terms, seems to be taken very seriously, and I've known some to travel thousands of miles to provide companionship or aid to such a close friend. Though the smut can get out of hand, this might have something to do with their strong identification with their characters combined with the fact that everyone, including you, enjoys pornography. Unlike the overwhelming majority of such fandoms, most furs tend to be very discreet about the matter, which is a refreshing change from raving anime fans who can't seem to work out how not to be annoying. The majority of furs seem to like anime. Most of the art stinks; however, this is mostly because it seems that most furs are either amateur artists or are in the midst of begging someone to teach them to draw (I'd sell a cure for AIDS for this request to be fulfilled more often), which, as you may guess, can create an ample supply of painfully bad efforts. Everyone wants a fursuit, and hardly anyone ever gets one. Some furs seem a touch weird.

These are my perceptions.

V Gryph

Thank you

I've been a furry for a couple years now and that is the best explanation of furry culture I've ever read. It makes me really happy someone sees us for we really are. I really appreciate it. I am forever grateful. Thank you.

Thanks dude :-)

Hey, I'm writing here to give a little kudos to the page but also to suggest that you look something up. i think it could be of use if you choose to update your page. When you mention FurryMUCK as being the largest of the internet furry i urge you to go and check out Furcadia. I believe that this my be larger that FurryMUCK if not rivaling it in size.

I liked this, because it looks like you got alot of good unbiased info, even though there is alot of untrue info meant only to cause trouble out there. but I do see a few errors.
First of all, Furries don't do Mental Shifts. Therians, a completely different group, do. it is a common mistake to group Therians and Furries together, or mistake the two, but Furries do not expklicitly blieve in any spiritual type things, like therians. Furries are simply fans.
second, there are some serious gaps in here, I would suggest you try the people at WikiFur ( ) they would love to enlighten all who ask. ^_. .^

yes the info is wrong,as anthrocon is the largest in the world!

Re: nice! but...

Wow, I don't even remember when I posted that comment, it looks like it was back in 2007! O!O
Interesting to see that people are still reading things I said back then...

Wow.... this thread keeps coming back to haunt me... O!o
The last comment I made was a year ago... O!O

The best site in the

When I first heard about "furries" I wuz all like "HOLY EW LIKE GROSS, MAN!"

but then I saw some of the art on this site and now i think you people are SICK

you disgust me

thats all


hi vexan!
i have some furry art image content on my tasmanian sex information site, in the fetish section. -
feel free to link on your link list if wished.

Your anti-site

(Anonymous) I'm a furry supporter and when i found this site i just thought u ought too know.

wrong info about furries

you info is so wrong and bias that you should attend a furry convention to see the real truth about the furry fandom.sounds like it's coming from one of the small minded trolls or haters as their known.

thanks ^.^

i recently found out one of my oldest friends is a furry.

while completely bemused i remained ignorant really till i read your article. thank you for giving me the ability to discourse like a rational adult with him when the topic comes up again.

furry brands

Hi there, i was just wondering if anyone could help me?
I would just like to know if there are any brands associated with the furry subculture ? like have any brands emerged from Furries ?

Hope some one can help me would be greatly appreciated .

Mrrau. Looking for info on furries. Thanks for the essay, seems pretty consistent with what I've learnt so far. Think I might be interested in the scene. Wonder if I'd be welcome, not fully furry in a suit. Any furs out there to help...

Drop me a line, mrrau...

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