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From: (Anonymous) Date: July 20th, 2004 12:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
Brilliant!
I am impressed; Logic reasoning around this for our society hugely important concept . First encounter for me.
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Max
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 13th, 2005 09:28 am (UTC) (Link)

hi i am one of those who is able to move the soul out of body

hi everyone
i just got a fresh experience of movin my soul out of body
i just think of it as a circit i have diagram but i cannot post it here i want to kown how you can push yourself out of body
i did leave my body by mistake but i want it to happen again??
can u email me then i ll also send diagram to you
thanks Email Address : pkrittach@tisb.ac.in
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 18th, 2005 08:03 am (UTC) (Link)

Soul

I saw a soul/spirit/ghost when I was twelve. As expected in a child, I couldn't sleep well at night for many years, even though the event had taken place in plain daylight -at noon. I still wonder how that soul 'at the speed of light' could open,not go through -as in films-, two doors and swerve a television set that was in the middle of the kitchen...
The soul had the shape and height of a human being and it was the whitest white I had ever seen. Because of the speed at which it crossed the kitchen, I was just able to see its back. I still wonder if it had a face.
After some years I came to this conclusion:
Souls can exist out of a body, move freely around at great speed, become visible or invisible to our eyes, see objects, aply force to material objects, affect our behaviour, and the worst of all, souls can kill human beings (anyone standing behind any of the two doors would be dead by now. Fortunately, my family and I -seven people- were sitting at the table when the soul visited us)
Please, if you have any comments, anything that could help me understand that event, send a mail to silviaalbi@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance.

From: (Anonymous) Date: September 14th, 2005 02:46 am (UTC) (Link)
You can't put your finger on everything and a soul is one of those issues were i think you have a very intresting outlook but it's not to be answered. You have a thrist for knowing how all this comes together but your gonna go crazy trying to figure it all out. Your not suppose to know YET. You can't apply science to the soul...although it is an intresting theory.Kudos for the investigator in you but....come on!!. Don't be such a mind freak it's too beautiful to be picked apart and so is the soul. It's all we have as individuals and individuals we are.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 20th, 2006 05:48 am (UTC) (Link)

Soul

Well, I have a approach for the topic -

Now, soul cannot be made of nothing(Null, Vacuum) has to be made up of something, say photons or some element.
Hence it has a structure.

Next - out belief in soul
1. Comes from the religious and theosophical books written by ancestors, Earlier Race. I guess we should trust ourselves more than wat they said.
All religions had many wrong concepts which they have come out of -
example - flat earth, universe and earth created within 6 days etc of Christianity. Loads of animal worship and deviated ritual of Hinduism.
Blind belief and no questioning in Islam. List is endless
2. Things called as evidence for existence of soul are - NDE and astral travels.
Experts say - NDEs can be done by list of chemicals also, it has been tested.
About Astral travel, it has to do with a deviated state of consciousness within the brain, even though it feels to be as if body has nothing to do with astral travelling feeling.
3. The earlier races if they discovered immortality, (is a mere manipulation of genes) then they might play this game of appearing as old man in light and giving an NDE by accessing brain of the victim
4. Recently I read , that in Japan they have made a machine for dreams
Decide dream video of ur choice and go to sleep and dream !!
If that can be done, giving NDEs, astral-travel wont be difficult step.


Concluding -
I would rather doubt earlier races, and chemistry of brain than to conclude for the feel ("everything in life wud seem worthwhile if we had concept of soul, oversoul, re-incarnation, karma etc" - applied psychology)
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 22nd, 2006 12:45 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: body is the dress of our souls 1

There is a seen, material world and there is an unseen spiritual world. In the seen world, biological laws or natural laws like gravity are valid and they are all inserted by God to make our lives easy and fruitful. If we plant the seed of an orange, then we can have an orange tree. If we jump off the building we die but we take a plane we fly.
As for the unseen world, here are divine laws and commands for us again. Soul is one of these divine laws. We cannot see it but we feel it through soul’s acts. The actions of soul start once it clothes its body in mother’s womb. A book without meaning is not a book, a tree without it’s the law of growth that stimulates its f growing cannot grow up and stays as a small seed. The same way, without the soul, we would stay in our mother’s womb as a lump meat.
God acts in the seen world through causes. However, in the unseen world, there are many other worlds or realms: the world of ideas, symbols or immaterial forms, the inner dimensions of things, and souls, where God acts directly and where matter and causes do not exist.
Thus the soul is breathed into the embryo directly, making it a direct manifestation of GOD, and therefore the basis of human life. Like natural laws, which come from the same Divine Sovereignty the soul does come from the Divine sovereignty. But unlike other laws like the law of growth or gravity, is a living, conscious law. If the soul were stripped of life and consciousness, it would be "regular" law; if "regular" laws were given life and consciousness, each one would become a soul.
Science cannot define or perceive the soul. While matter or anything in the material world is composed of atoms, and atoms are made up of more minute particles, the soul is a simple, non-compound entity. We cannot see it, but we can know it through its actions in this world. Although we accept its existence and observe its manifestations, we cannot know its nature. Such ignorance, however, does not mean that it does not exist.
How can see Souls’ actions?
Our eyes are the windows of our souls.
We see with our eyes, as they are our instruments of sight. The main center of sight is located in the brain. But the brain does not see. You do not say: "My brain sees"; rather, you say: "I see." It is the individual who sees or hears or senses. But what is this "I"? Is it something composed of a brain, a heart, and other organs and limbs? Why can we not move when we die, although all our organs and limbs are there? Does a factory operate by itself, or does something else (i.e., electrical energy) cause it to work? Any defect or error in a factory that causes a disconnection between it and its electrical energy can reduce a once highly productive and invaluable factory to a heap of junk. Is such a relation at all comparable to that between the soul and the body?
When the body's connection with the soul is cut by death, the body is reduced to something that must be disposed of quickly, before it begins to rot and decompose.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 11th, 2007 09:06 am (UTC) (Link)

wheres a soul

Your soul is right under you lower ribs,its kinda like a pie graph with your good and bad actions recorded, and all of you feelings a emotions from the actions and experiences in your life, now theres a link that connects your soul to your mind and your mind to the body. Now the only way to find out how a non-physical soul interacts with the body is to die its that simple.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 20th, 2008 03:11 pm (UTC) (Link)

Noble Prize

I think there was actually a noble prize awarded to a scientist, for proving that the brain is not merely physical. They did this by perfectly replicating nerve impulses etc. to the brain to produce movement etc. yet it didn't work. It (the experiment) must have been reliable if it earned the scientist a noble prize. This could mean that the brain is really a library or machine, that is used by the soul to store info./ or it is run by the soul. I'll google it to find out more.
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 20th, 2008 03:23 pm (UTC) (Link)

scientists name

SIR JOHN ECCLES
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