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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: October 22nd, 2003 12:38 am (UTC) |
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 hello
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Hello, my name is Kira
I am a Catholic and I do not despise nor hate your religion.
Everyone has free will to choose the way they live their lives.
I understand some of what u say on ur websites and u seem to hate my religion.
That I have no care for, but i wish to ask about 'The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth.'
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
Usually 'Guest' is sumone that u have welcomed into ur 'lair' and if not on purpose they annoy you, why treat them cruelly and without mercy? Isn't one of your powerful sayings:
'Do unto them as they do unto you'
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
Do you have an actually 'mating signal?' Why do you degrade making love? is sex just a great romp to your culture?
Is having sex like an everyday thing? e.g having breakfast.
Do you believe in the pill and condoms and abortion? what is Satanism views or beliefs on them?
9. Do not harm little children.
I would hope not.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
So does this man you can kill humans then? you say non- human animals.
Humans are not animals.
Animals to me are more pure and peaceful.
Humans go deeper, they can think for themselves, create, worship,love,destroy,laugh etc
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
when I first read this I did not understand and I still don't.
Why destroy?
in what way would a person destroy another?
That is awful, to want to harm another and also to do for so little. Again 'do unto them as they do unto you'
so if they hit you u hit them back? so on and so forth.
It seems like it wouldn't solve very many problems.
Has it ever occured to you, that people who think full of themselves and that themselves are all that matters... are greedy and do not care bout others. If you do what has been done to you,
lets say a guy hits you in the gut, you turn around and hit him back and then your fight continues and sumone ends up injured or dead what good will come of this?
It's ppl like this who create fights,war,suffering,pain and death.
I also wanted to ask where do you get your power to do magick?
From your God Satan? or from yourselves?
thats all and if u do not reply thats cool
sorry if i wasted your time. ciao
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From: ![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif) vexen |
Date: October 22nd, 2003 09:53 am (UTC) |
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Re: hello
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1) Answers to most your questions can be found here: http://www.dpjs.co.uk/ethics.html#Rules2) I don't hate your religion. But I do think Catholicism is wrong. You are right though, everyone has free will to live how they want. So people can be Catholics as they wish. (Of course, many people such as the mentally disabled, severely imbalanced scitzophrenics and depressives, etc, don't actually have any free will about major aspects of their lives, but that's another story for another day). Some questions you've asked may not be answered on the page above, so, here are some further notes to address them: 3) (About Rule 5) I do not degrade making love, it's the most intimate and meaningful physical activity between people who care for each other. You'd have to ask individual Satanists to see what their views on condoms and contraceptives are *but*, anyone who wants to enjoy life and enjoy sex would be stupid not to be sensible and take precautions. Abortion is traumatic and should be avoided - but - sometimes it is for the best. 4) 10. Humans *are* animals. And, there is no reason in Satanism not to kill and eat a person. Of course there are legal difficulties and moral difficulties, but if the person was willing to be eaten, then there is no moral problem as long as you cook safely! Animals are far from peaceful, the animal kingdom is a bloody and violent place. 5) (About rule 11) Christianity has the same ethic, it's called the Golden Rule, and was a Jewish saying that the author of matthew claims Jesus repeated (Matthew 7:12). Both that and the Satanic equivalent are versions of the Ethic of Reciprocity, which is a fundamentally flawed ethic. I have a page going in to some depth on it: http://www.vexen.co.uk/notes/golden.html6) I agree that such people are selfish. However, has it occured to you that when people do nice things, they are only doing it because it pleases themselves to be good people? Nice behaviour and altruism are self-pleasing too, altruism as they say is also "long term selfishness". Together, this shows us that nice people are selfish too - but what makes themselves happy is simply more socially acceptable that what "selfish" people do. Both types of people are equally self-gratifying, but only one camp admit to being selfish! http://www.dpjs.co.uk/good.html#Altruism has some more text on this and a quote from The Satanic Bible saying that frequently being nice to others, especially those who you care for, is pleasing and good. I think that as Satanism is more in touch with Human nature, Satanists' understand violence better than Christians. (In the same way, someone trained in a martial art understands violence better than those who are shielded from it). Christianity has more than it's fair share of torture, wars, suffering, coercian, death and violence. The history of Christianity is a history of large-scale torture, force, crusades and wars as much as it is a history of belief! 7) Power comes from the self. -- Ciao. |
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: November 11th, 2004 10:28 pm (UTC) |
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yeah, this is how you preform it "pick up a knife, or any other sharp object" (does'nt have to be an object) try jumping off a cliff, ect. Thats the most effective Death Ritual I know. lol. Serious, why? are you either depressed, lonely, jelous? pick one, then try the above, if not to your self , maybe to the person, oh, and may your spirit, be forever damned in this life or the next(s) for commiting an act against Temptus (time), to which all things including Satan have no choice but to bow down too. Contact at me at TYLEF@hotmail.com, for any weird theories like that temptus one, i have a load of deep theories.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: November 11th, 2004 10:34 pm (UTC) |
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Satan must bow down too.
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I have come up with an insane but also at the same time, logical theory. Everyperson, god goddess, ect, even Satan, have to bow down and obey this one simple little thing.
"Time", without it, no acts can be carried out, or indeed anything exsist. It makes perfect sense. Funny how things work out in the end, even for Satan. Contact me at TYLEF@hotmail.com for similar ideas, or my site is pretty alright http://groups.msn.com/SecondRealm
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