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From: ![[info]](http://l-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif) lorah |
Date: November 2nd, 2002 03:33 pm (UTC) |
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I still don't understand why some people believe some things as opposed to others. To me, over all I've read and seen, Chrisitanity has been the only thing that made sense to me. As for those who have called themselves Christians and did things apposing what the Bible said, they tainted the name for the true at heart. You say that believers provide power or something. "A god is only as powerful as it's followers, and every atheist denies every god that little bit of power.". This statement is so untrue that I am not sure where or how anyone could come up with this notion. Maybe you think the Bible is just a fun little story book of myths, but I know it to be a truth. Its not something that can be told, rather, it must be experience. God will have the greatest power, whether or not he has one follower, a trillion followers, or no followers. In the Bible, God will defeat Luciefer no matter what. This is what makes sense to me.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: February 4th, 2005 01:25 am (UTC) |
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The easy way out
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The easy way out is the biggest part of your life isn't it? Not wanting to take on struggles, maybe not even wanting to have to work for what you get. IF Santanism "seems to have a respect for life", I'm surprised that love everlasting from Jesus doesn't seem like the "perfect" life. You have to believe you are more that just physical beings made up of chemicals. There are so many other things in life to question, why does religion have to be so questionable? You can't base everything on feelings. If you did, you wouldnt ever "FEEL" like doing or believing in anything. Don't give up on God. Santanism is to Satin- descietful serpent. THe devil is only out to give you what the world has to offer you for the time being, but when you live for yourself how ofter do you get hurt? Now take the times when you truely lived for GOD, and compare. God has more to offer you that doubts,desciet,heartache, and pain- BUt love everlasting. Do yourself a favor, quite letting the Devil doubt you, and stetch your arms wide and high like you use to when you wanted your father to pick you up. God wants you to rise to him so he can keep you from your fears and pain, and comfort you. I hope you quite doubting, and except the truth! GOD BLESS!!!
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From: vexen |
Date: April 7th, 2003 09:39 am (UTC) |
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From: vexen |
Date: November 10th, 2003 10:56 am (UTC) |
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What's "Demonic ancestry"?
I mean, if you're a Christian you might hold that it is possible children of the Nephilim, etc, could have "demonic ancestry", but I don't give much credit to Christian mythology.
And... what are "True Satanists"???
I mean, I see lots of Christians running around each ignorantly claiming to know absolute truth, that I Am Right And Everyone Else is Wrong, but as Satanism is freethinking and individualistic, I don't see how there can be "true" Satanists. What other types do you think there are? False ones? In other words, "Satanists who don't believe what I believe are 'false'"? I was almost sure that Christianity pretty-much had closed-mindedness cornered, in the West, but maybe I'm wrong!
Tell me... what is this True Satanism and how do you come about it?
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: November 17th, 2003 05:47 am (UTC) |
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O.K Vexen, I concede. It is of no consequence to me if you call yourself a satanist. You are entitled to your beliefs even if to me they are of little value. The reason I object, and I would presume others of a like mind do also, is that you have highjaked as it were the symbology of Satan. You are reductionist, demoting Satan to an intangible dark power. This dark power is insignificant. It is natural, it is not god or evil, light or dark. I fail to see why you hold it in such high esteem. You devalue the essence of what I hold true. The normal, as you put it, use of the term Satanist by the public at large is connected with the church of satan. Largely due to your high profile members such as Manson not to mention the fact that we live in a world where it is now fashionable to affect cynicism. So when I automatically get associated with atheist Satanism and the perceived world views that go with it, it almost incites me to violence.
You say I am closed minded. I probably am after all arrogance and pride are part of my demonic hereditary, still do not think you get where I am coming from with this one! However, are you not the one who runs with the pack here on Earth? Do you not cite the doctrine of La Vey? Hold him up as if a god in miniature? In your attempt to remain free thinking you have become manacled. You are Earth bound and lack spiritual integrity. This will probably sound as an insult but it is not meant as such, I hope when it comes your death is swift and that your sole does not linger as I respect you hold your beliefs with conviction even if they are clearly futile.
Sorath.
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From: vexen |
Date: November 17th, 2003 10:09 am (UTC) |
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If there was one main message to be found in my page I wrote, mostly inspired by your post, http://www.dpjs.co.uk/true.html , it is that we are *both* entitled to call ourselves Satanists. LaVey is very much an esteemed person, deification does not seem eminent, not even pseudo-deification! He was not a largely charismatic person, however, he is prominent in Satanism and I am (as you can tell...) accurately described as a LaVey Satanist. Have you read: http://www.dpjs.co.uk/god.html "If there is a god, it is evil" and http://www.dpjs.co.uk/righteous.html (List of some types of theistic Satanism), I'm interested if you think the types of theistic Satanism I've listed are too limited or vague. |
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: June 30th, 2005 04:51 pm (UTC) |
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re: comment
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to dear christian conforming filth.
your comments on degrading onseself are quite charming , so thank you. If you thought us satanists are self degrading, maybe you should repeat that comment to our faces. for we would just laugh.
god,,,,, a deep believer you say? yes. but no. we have chosen our own paths. a question for you
if god so loved the world that he gave his one and only begotten son(who had an alliance with the fallen angel "luicifer",then why after his death, supposedly that which destroyed our sins, must we destroy ourselves with all that christian bullshit?????? ?????? ??????. think about it? are you a scholar or are you an eater of ones own words, no?.
a "perfect" god, creates an imperfect world..... gives thew ones he loves the most the choice to die? . by default,. god is not saviour. ... the christian man when hit in the face, turs the cheek and asks for more.... is this not the same priciple of the spaniel, once kicked. do we deserve this punishment.. no . we do not turn the other cheek. we give back tenfold, because self presevation is all. "love your enemy" ????what is this..... my dear and unfortunate idiot, would you love the blood smitten jaws of a shark that kills your wife or child. NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: February 29th, 2004 06:20 am (UTC) |
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my comment
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as a Christian, I have a strong, very strong faith in God, that He exists and that He loves me. Maybe I cannot show you a physical proof that God really exists (I can say I, myself, am a proof), but I can never prove that He does not exist, and neither can you. Contemplate on this, scientists says the universe started in a Big Bang, but until today, they still haven't discovered what happened before that big bang. Who could have possibly started it? God. There would never be other answers. And by the way, can I just ask you, do you believe in heaven or hell? If you do, where would possibly end up when you die, after doing these thing in your life? If you don't, where would you go after you die? Gone, just like that? Let me tell you something, God love you, and He had promised heaven. If you just cling on that idea, you'll have a better life, I tell you. Ok, that's all. PS. read the Bible *thoroughly*.
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| From: (Anonymous) |
Date: April 10th, 2004 05:12 pm (UTC) |
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Written by a believer in Allah
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I think in a few lines I will refute the ludicrous theories made by the bad typist and fake clumsy writer. First of all you are not a real writer. A real writer makes sense. You do not.
"All good is derived from evil" and "Evil would exist even without good"
Well the flaw in this theory is that by fact, Satan was created by God, and God (goodness existed before Satan) and is free of needing Satan to exist. Satan is only alive by God's Will. God would exist without Satan, but Satan admits to his failure, and his promise of doom, and with his lonely "individualism" thinking, accepts that he is alone, and he can only promise loneliness, and no hope. Self dependence is a mythical ideology. No one can survive alone, even those pretending to survive alone, by isolating themselves from society, and not going to work and going on welfare and sitting at home, have the government, and people's taxes to depend on to feed them. Just as the person who goes to work on a daily basis and interacts with other people depends on someone to hire him/her, and depends on the cooperation of co-workers etc, just as the entrepreneur who expresses his/her talent, and depends on the audience for acceptance, is dependent on others.
Your misuse of the terms "individualism" the ideal that attracts immigrants to the West, his a cheap play. Individualism is not Satanic rather it is incorporated in uniqueness, and uniqueness moves away from ordinariness, if Satanism claims to be the honest acceptance of man's true evil animal nature, than it does not fall under uniqueness or individualism, rather abstinence and restraint from the evils of human desires would fall under individualism, because it moves away from the ordinary. People are evil by nature not good by nature that part you got right. But Satanism has nothing to do with individualism, it is human nature, and human nature - evilness is apparent everywhere, there is nothing special about it.
I am refuting this in response to the theories i read at the Church of Satan site. These are just two very obvious stupid and clumsy theories by the clever devil, that is what it comes down to picking up on his lies, and errors, and bad writing that expose his false and misleading play of words to seem what he is not.
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