From: (Anonymous)	Date: December 15th, 2002 08:11 pm (UTC)		(Link)

your logic is flawed. Your conection of free will and the Uncertainty Principle is erroneous. It becomes eben more erroneous when you decide to use Theological definitions as Omniscience and apply it erroneously. Omniscience DOES NOT contradict free will.

	From: vexen	Date: December 16th, 2002 12:24 am (UTC)		(Link)

Omniscience alone does not, but combined with being all-powerful, and being the "unmoved mover" means that God, through cause and effect, set up all the factors and influences that control what choices we make, therefore no free will. It says this in the essay.

Also, the essay itself states that the Uncertainty Principle cannot be used (via the quantum soul and Observer uncertainty) to restore free will. I reccommend you read more carefully!

From: (Anonymous)	Date: November 21st, 2005 10:41 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Omniscience and Free Will

God's omniscience alone negates free will. Once the future is known it cannot be changed by "free will or anything else." If the future could be changed it would not truly be the future. Therefore if God is omniscient then God knows the future. He knows what you will do 1 year from now, 1 month from now, 1 week from now, 1 day from now, 1 hour from now, 1 minute from now and 1 second from now. You can not change what God already knows. The only choice you can make is the choice God knows ahead of time you are going to make. That is NOT free will. Your "free" choices are only an illusion.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: October 23rd, 2003 02:17 am (UTC)		(Link)
These essays you write have "TRUTH" written all over.

Need I say more?
Implacable thought is a wonderful thing. I'm reading your thoughts as if I were reading my own - the conclusions could not be different, it's like maths but much better. And this feeling that it REALLY IS TRUE, that it REALLY MAKES SENSE, it's so different from the daily need to deal with irrationality. I really liked your site (the bits I've been through I mean).

luis.ferreira@clix.pt

From: (Anonymous)	Date: May 22nd, 2004 05:43 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: These essays you write have "TRUTH" written all over.

I don't think you know what is the difference between the truth and a lie. The fact that your feelings and emotions are satisfied by something doesn't mean that thing is true, that is devil specialty to lure you and draw you near him through deception. Of course he won't tell the truth after all, he is the father of lies. I'm sorry to say but you are truly lost.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: December 9th, 2003 12:14 pm (UTC)		(Link)
johnmcdonagh

We have to be begin to understand we are locked behind our senses. That is our senses or collectively our consciousness is limited, but not confined.
How do we know? How do we know we know…the answer is we don’t but relative to what we did know and some objective evidence we judge something right or wrong (This I call marginal sense use). Take the study of most scientific endeavours and you shall find no end stage, no beginning with an end point, just more theory. The answer at this end is that we just don’t know.
Imagination and science are attempts to go beyond the senses in order to provide possible clues/answers to hard or paradoxical questions. It has to be understood that paradox signals the limit of human consciousness at this point in time. To go beyond paradox requires an understanding of consciousness and a willingness to increase the developmental evolution of consciousness. Questions such as god, infinity, good and evil could be to us what a human being is to a bacterium. The consciousness distance between being able to know that you have a question and what that question is may have a dimensional context that our consciousness has not reached.
The feeble attempts to answer questions such as ‘Why are free market mechanisms not perfect’ betray themselves as questions beyond our evolutional dimensional consciousness. This is also the problem for A.I. ‘Why won’t the thing think for us if we give it enough information?’ We can go on collecting knowledge but if we are not conscious of why we collect knowledge or by attempting to answer these questions with reference to the big questions – paradoxes, we are effectively citing knowledge as the precursor to greater consciousness; It is this that I disagree with for if I don’t see what I know then I am blind! If greater consciousness begets greater knowledge then perhaps then the big questions will yield; but the paradox of consciousness and knowledge is the paradox of the chicken and the egg.
An example might elucidate this idea. A foetus must have written within it’s DNA an algorithm either for consciousness leading to learning or learning leading to consciousness. What comes first? Perhaps knowledge has blinded us to the pursuit of consciousness and that more attention to consciousness is in order, yes, yes I know this is also the pursuit of knowledge.

jmcb3@lycos.co.uk

	From: greenmoonfaery	Date: January 7th, 2004 02:35 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	theres my 2 cents

Bible specifically says God gave us free will to make our own decisions and mistakes. He gave us the morals and the rules but we are certainly free to break them.

	From: vexen	Date: January 15th, 2004 02:58 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: theres my 2 cents

The Bible gets lots of other things wrong, too. What's your point?

	From: greenmoonfaery	Date: January 15th, 2004 02:59 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: theres my 2 cents

mmm angry atheists

you gusy go have fun now.

I'll go back to pretendign you didn;t just send me that

	From: vexen	Date: January 15th, 2004 03:09 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: theres my 2 cents

Who/Where are angry atheists?

Sure, go on pretending.

	From: greenmoonfaery	Date: January 15th, 2004 03:11 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: theres my 2 cents

yah sorry for beign sassy, just not a great time to talk k...

let';s cut this off now

	From: vexen	Date: January 15th, 2004 03:27 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: theres my 2 cents

OK, and sorry for matching like with like.

From: sera_michele	Date: March 30th, 2004 07:04 am (UTC)		(Link)
Great Essay

Wonderfully put. We are all just animals with the same instincts as others. What makes us different is our higher intelligence. We have the ability to ponder things, and with that comes questions to which we would want answers. This ability of ours is what probably devoloped religion in the first place (or at least why people still look to religion today).

From: (Anonymous)	Date: April 28th, 2004 02:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)
All Beings in existence have free will

Your argument fails in the most dramatically simple manner:

You simply don't have enough information to judge any aspect of God.

All you can infer is incomplete data from remarkably biased texts that were written, maintained and promulgated by a politically motivated priesthood. From this morass of confusion can be gleaned precious little about the true nature of God. Even if it was "inspired" by God, it was meant to help people live through the litteral and figurative deserts of the space/time setting and the ignorance of chaotic, primitive screw-heads (respectively).

Furthermore, how simple it is to fathom that God has CHOSEN to be benevolent and thought that this would be neat if people did too.

For God's sake, apply Occam's Razor to the bushy beard of fundamentalist dogma and get over the ego-trap of one-upping God.

Keith T. Syverson
Life=Needs/Wants
Freedom=/Wants/Needs
omnivorius@hotmail.com

From: (Anonymous)	Date: May 22nd, 2004 05:16 am (UTC)		(Link)
There is a God

I read one of the essays in this site and I feel that this is the most deceptive site I've ever visited. The fact is, there is a God and he exist as the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost, any person who denies that is a satanist and a fool. When satan thought of himself to be god he lost his precious position and ministry to the Almighty God and now he has deceived you just like he deceived those angels who are now demons. Let me tell you the truth,you can never create God since you are a creature that dies. You can never give life to a God since you need life of your own. God is true, God is self existent and Everlasting, God is THE LORD,THE LORD GOD, merciful and gracious,long-suffering,and abundant in goodness and truth, keeping mercy for the thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. Denying the existence of God is like trying to hide from judgment using your own thumb. The fact is Satan is a lair,a thief, a killer and a destroyer. My suggestion is, give up this non-sense of self worship and serving the true living God who loved you that he gave his only Son to die for your sins and all iniquity the you may have life eternal and the name of his son is Jesus the Christ. I can imagine the bondage your are in and at the same time you don't even recognize that you are in bonds and you are being used and soon you'll be worn out and you will be destroyed and you'll burn in hell with out rescue. God lives and he can forgive your sins right now if you repent from them, he can give you a new life, the Bible says,"If a man be in Christ is a new creature old things are passed away, behold all have become new. For all things come from God who have reconciled us unto himself through Jesus Christ,... For he made him sin for us who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:17-21 You only need to believe in Jesus Christ if you want to have your personal encounter with this God. He has made you for to reign on earth and angels to serve you at his command but now you have chosen to serve the rebellious fallen angel who is meant to serve you, but God can fix that. In conclusion Satan is a loser, he lost the battle in heaven, he lost the battle to Jesus on earth, he lost in the grave yard, and he shall continually lose in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Make haste and repent please, judgment day is nigh and it is not as promising as the devil describes it.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: May 23rd, 2004 08:51 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: There is a God - ha ha ha!

Idiot.

"God is a giant jelly doughnut".

Gee, I said something about God! Supplying no evidence, no facts, not even the tiniest of attempts to link my statement to the real world!
THEREFORE I MUST BE RIGHT!! BECAUSE I SAY SO!! AHAahahaha!!!!
Can I join your club now?! Do I get a special hat?

Even if your God (which you have not, of course, coherently defined) DID exist, you are not helping his cause much with this insane babble. You merely give any educated person MORE reason to avoid it.