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Institutionalized Religions Have Their Numbers Inflated by National Polls
"Institutionalized Religions Have Their Numbers Inflated by National Polls" by Vexen Crabtree

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From: (Anonymous) Date: February 10th, 2005 11:13 pm (UTC) (Link)

Exactly, world religions adherents numbers are indeed seriuosly exaggerated, false.

Dude, yopu have said what I have been trying to say to people, and most of them don't wish to aknowledge it, even many freethinkers ignore this reality. I applaud your common sense friend.

Bill Baker
Iconoclastithon@faithless.org
insanityxawaits From: [info]insanityxawaits Date: March 31st, 2005 07:50 am (UTC) (Link)

Trying to find some peace of mind

I found your site while I was searching for information on the satanic bible. I'm a christian. But I'm also very curious as to what is so appealing about other religions and I've noticed that there's truth in every single one. Now imagine how much better off we would be if we put these truth's together and set aside all of the rituals, stereotypes and "facts". The concept of christianity is that God lives through people to try and save us before we finally destroy ourselves in our suicidal dependancy on luxury. The bible is a human interpreation of moral values and scientific fact put together. To focus on one where it proves a point right, and then focus on another when it fits is so cliche. Even if the bible was just a mythology, why sit and breakdown every single point that the poor guy writing it was trying to make. All he was trying to do was save our sorry asses from ourselves. The bible is a beautiful book to read even if you don't beleive in god, look at how much good it's done from people who beleive in it. There's a difference between a christian and a "modern" christian. a true christian is someone who doesn't spit bible verses at you when they know you don't want to hear them. They don't imply their ideals on you. I do have to say, I don't even go to church anymore because it's no different from anywhere else. It bothers me that some christians think thier better than everybody else just becasue they beleive in god. There's so much hypocricy in everything it's sometimes over whelming. The only truth is change. And I think everybody has wasted enough time pulling other peoples life choices to pieces. We all know that this world going to end yet we leave it in ruins for the next generation. The only truth is change. Think about it, like you have been for so long. Where has all your thinking got you?
vexen From: [info]vexen Date: March 13th, 2009 04:21 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Trying to find some peace of mind

Much of what you are saying (in 2005) is related to Deism - check it out. Have you developed your thoughts since 2005?
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 27th, 2009 04:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Trying to find some peace of mind

There are unclear definitions of deism. Einstein, Thomas Jefferson, and many others are proclaimed by some to be deists. Jefferson even has his "Jefferson Bible" in which he dismisses much of the Bible but likes the parables with the disciples for their ethical teachings. However, deism has this odd belief in a soul and an afterlife. Rather hard to believe in that part of deism. No atheist or agnostic who laughs at the illogic of a god can rationally claim to be a deist, it would seem to me.
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 27th, 2009 04:35 pm (UTC) (Link)

Religion Identification

I think that you have a "True Scotsman" fallacy here. If someone identifies themselves as a Christian, there is some meaning to that self-identification. To discount it because they don't prescribe to your definition seems odd.
I would describe myself as a Unitarian. Now, theologically, Unitarianism has something to do with a disagreement in the idea of the Trinity-that of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. I have no understanding what that means and don't really care. But the current UUA (Unitarian-Universalists of American) have this thing about 7 Principles that UUAs believe. Things like the free exchange of ideas. Really no dogma. But I don't attend church more than once every year or so and I disagree with most UUAs most of the time on social issues. I suspect that you would say that I am not really a Unitarian since I don't attend, don't fit in politically, and I don't believe in the Unity aspects of the Trinity. But I say that I am. Are you right and I am wrong?
Meanwhile, in Japan, something like 85% identify as Shintoists and 70% call themselves Buddhists. Some say that Shinto is not a religion and yet most books on religions seem to include it. I suspect that Shinto and Buddhist beliefs are deeply held and lived. Yet you say that 11% of Japan is religious?
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