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vexen From: vexen Date: November 18th, 2004 08:08 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Jesus did not exist

So, why did does God not put everyone in heaven, immediately?

There would then be no suffering.

It doesn't matter if some people don't deserve it, a loving God would do it anyway.

It doesn't matter that some people don't CHOOSE heaven or don't know about heaven, such people would be happy there, so it's best to do it.

Why doesn't God?

There isn't a god, and there isn't a heaven.

http://www.vexen.co.uk/rm.html (no god!)
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 15th, 2005 02:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

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You are basing your reasoning on a misunderstanding of the nature of a "loving" God. Love does not "force" people to do anything.
vexen From: vexen Date: February 16th, 2005 11:27 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Jesus did not exist

That's a useless excuse. Why doesn't God put everyone in Heaven? It would end all problems. Just stating that it doesn't do it because it doesn't force people to do things is rubbish. It FORCED millions of SE Asians to move from their homes in the aftermath of the tsunami, it forces millions of people to have diabetes, genetic disorders, unfortunate diseases, natural diseases... it forces all these bad things on people, why wont God force heaven on everyone too?
vexen From: vexen Date: April 11th, 2005 06:59 pm (UTC) (Link)

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I've wrote up more of a response at:

http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/heaven.html#PutUsInHeaven
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 14th, 2011 08:56 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Jesus did not exist

Actually, if you put aside your religious (or non-religious) beliefs for a second and think outside the box, and imagine that you are this Creator who wants to create ONE planet with living things on it, and create things on it that are in your likeness would you not want to see how it all played out? Thinking along the lines of a story writer who hands over his script to a trustworthy director (in this case the LORD himself is the creator), wouldn't it be interesting to see how all the pieces fit together, and would it not hurt to see things collide? Wouldn't it hurt to see all of these ignorant things battling with one another and tearing up this beautiful planet that you created? Would you not want to place into existence this thing, through you, that could somehow change the course of the show? What if you had to put away this show after awhile, but you did not want to keep all but the very best pieces. If these things that were in your likeness were the ones creating havoc would you not also want a way for these things to decide their own destiny? I don't know about you, but if I were the Creator running this show I'd want to be as removed from it as possible and just let things play out, only intervening when necessary to assure that the outcome is a positive one.
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