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Jesus did not exist

"Jesus Did Not Exist" by Vexen Crabtree

Re: Jesus H Christ

vexen

2005-01-10 08:09 pm (UTC)

Paul never met Jesus in person; his only contact with Jesus (as Paul admits) is in a vision. This is far from "proof" that Jesus existed.

Re: Jesus H Christ

(Anonymous)

2005-07-06 02:01 pm (UTC)

Vexen... this is Dean (we used to debate on Logic and God a few years back.) What I have found most interesting about your thoughts, and the reason why I cannot take you seriously, is that you smash EVERYTHING that has a hint of religiosity and you cannot fathom that ANY of Christianity, or any other religion, has a hint of truth. It simply seems that your bias against religion has infected your reason. I know this hits home, because this is what you accuse Christians of all the time!
Here is the fact of the matter: Very few, if any, secular historians (who have a ph.d. in their field of study) see the 1st and 2nd century writings about Jesus as fraudulent (I will give you the Josephus quote, but he did have another quote about Christians that is not tainted) or view them as inadequate proof that a man named Jesus existed who had disciples, many followers, was crucified by Pontius Pilate, and whose disciples believed that he rose from the dead.
Honestly, in order to show that you are a reasonable person, I would reconsider your position on the existence of Jesus. No non-Christian historian would agree with you. They have no reason to believe that he existed! (besides the evidence) But because of your irrational bias, it has clouded your reason.
DH

Re: Jesus H Christ

(Anonymous)

2005-09-23 01:56 pm (UTC)

Vexen...
Will you not dignify the last blog with your own response...?
Thanks,
Dean

Re: Jesus H Christ

(Anonymous)

2006-01-14 05:36 pm (UTC)

Please point me to where it says this because I don believe you

Re: Jesus H Christ

vexen

2006-01-14 07:10 pm (UTC)

I'm not in my study at the moment so don't have a Bible to hand, but, the occasion of Paul's vision was on the Road to Damascus; which occurred when Jesus was quite some distance away on a different journey. Also, note that St Paul only writes of Jesus in mystical, ethereal terms and would probably be surprised that people nowadays think he was a real physical person.

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