Vexen Crabtree 2015


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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Re: Jacqueline, scripture is not to blame but ignorance of it's spirtual context

dear Vexen,

Some of your arguments are thought provoking and question religious indoctrination which is very relevant and poinent at this day and age, however you have undermined such questioning by falling prey to self righteousness and assuming that your arguments are not fool proof which in the end renders them subjective and dictorial rather than objective and therefore you come accross as hypocritical. If you were sincere and truelly objective you would have attempted at all times to give a balanced view which was consciencious enough to observe it's own folly and self indulgence. In attacking you have brought attack upon yourself and I sincerly hope that in future if you want to get a point accross you will not submit to the weakness of demomising or belittling the opposite side through means of self rightous argument because it renders valid arguments you present swamped and over looked by the over all tone of arrogance. you cannot speak for all people and assume you see the light above and beyond those you are trying to expose as flawed whilst your arguments are also flawed. Just because some religious people take certain scripture out of context and use it to justify selfish, malicious means it does not mean that that scripture as a whole itself is the cause. Religion becomes set in it's ways and instituional when people stray from the true meaning of scripture and build belief around selective doctrine, whilst ignoring the context in full or it's meaning of scripture as a whole. Not all Christians, Muslims or Jews limit themselves to convient means of addressing scripture partically, there are numbers that resonate with and follow all of the meaning and interpritaion by balanced means in a personal rather than religious manor. Open minded individuals that follow doctrine spiritually instead of religiously are more in touch with the true meaning of that very scripture. When religious leaders ignore many parts of the whole and mislead the followers to do the same it is this very corruption of ignoring scripture as a whole that is the problem, not nesseserily the scripture. And it is this very corruption and indictrination that gives religion, therefore scripture, a bad name which stops many from giving scripture a full and fair hearing. we all are guilty of picking and choosing what suits us and what does not to justify our motives and intentions. You too are guilty of this. It is not religion that is the entire problem as such but the rejection of the spiritual context of scripture and misinterpriataion of it as a whole that is the problem. When religion is founded on selective scripture and worse still is followed as law rather than the personal relationship with the true spiritual meaning behind such laws then the spiritual interpritation of such scripture is obscured and repressed. If religious leaders were in touch with the spiritual context of scripture and the human element instead of condemning the human condition as ultamitely sinful and therefore repungnent and condemned in the eyes of God, there would have been little in the way of religious war over the centuries. it is also relevant to point out that many religious people have been persecuted and killed by non believers as much as religious people have persecuted other religious peoples and non believers. You need to open your mind, Vexen, to the critisims people on this sight have expressed towards your arguments and humble yourself in seeing where you might be flawed in your arguments. If you are not prepared to do this then you are just as closed minded as the people you judge and have argument against. Jacqueline

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