From: (Anonymous)	Date: December 15th, 2002 02:37 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Adam and Eve: Incest...

I, personally, don't think that they had to participate in incestual relations. If you read Genesis 1:26-28 it reads "Then God said, 'Let us make people in our image'...God patterned them after Himself; male and female He created them... God blessed them and told them, 'Multiply and fill the earth..." Then, Genesis 2: 7-8, reads "And the Lord God formed a man's body from the dust of the ground and breathed into it the breath of life. And the man becamse a living person. Then the Lord God placed a garden in Eden, in the east, and there he placed the man he had created."
So, I think that really, God made a bunch of people to begin with, and spread them throughout the world, THEN He made Adam and Eve and placed those two in the Garden of Eden.

As for Noah and his wife, how can you say that God wouldn't be able to create more wives for Noah's grandchildren? God created the world, the universe, it wouldn't take much for God to create a couple more wives and husbands for Noah's grandchildren. Which would mean that Noah and his family had the responsibilty of teaching these newly created people God's word, etc.

So yeah, just thought I'd bring in another perspective.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: February 15th, 2003 03:33 pm (UTC)		(Link)
christians

Dearest whoever. I was brought up in a christian home in the bible belt. But Im a Theistic Satanist as I have been for 8 years. In my opinion the bible is garbage. But if You really want to break it down. Alot of it is true. But alot of it is false. In this day and age, you have to be blind to say that the prof. in the bible are not coming true. All that is left to be fullfilled is the Dome Of The Rock will be destroyed and the Jews will return to Isreal. Everything else is happened already. Then there are the things in the bible that people keep trying to disprove. They find something, then they think they have disproved it, but only because that is what they want to do. People need to stop trying to do this. They are wasting their time and making themselves look stupid. What they need to do is admit that their enemy is real and fight against it. Its not going to be much longer before people can no longer deny this. When this time comes, the people who give in first will be those people that are constantly trying to convince themselves that this is not real. They are still captive to this powermad god. In order to be free from this, You have to admit it to Yourself. Its like the drug addict that wont admit that there is a problem. You are getting no where. You cant fight the problem, if You wont admit that it exists. You are just putting Your self more and more in its grip. Hail Satan , Shamhamforash, From Mia Kou Yang

From: (Anonymous)	Date: March 31st, 2003 06:31 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Non-Christian Founding Fathers of the USA

Non-Christian Founding Fathers (http://monotheism.us) is a web site that lists some 'enlightening' quotes from or about the first Presidents of the USA. They were NOT christian...

From: (Anonymous)	Date: April 6th, 2003 05:22 am (UTC)		(Link)
Forgot...

Forgot to do something first...
Solving the problem of evil still does not prove God's existence so lets get to that first.

Proof of God's Existence.
First...The universe is subject to time, hence the Principle of Causality. Second, God is not subject to time, and therefore it is impossible to have a cause(before).

1. The universe had a beginning.
2. Anything that had a beginning must have been caused by something else.
3. Therefore the universe was caused by something else (a Creator).
Scientific Evidence:
Both scientific and philosophical evidence can be used to support this argument. According to the second law of thermodynamics, in a closed, isolated system, such as the universe is, the amount of usable energy is decreasing. The universe is running down, hence cannot be eternal. Otherwise, it would have run out of energy long ago. Things left to themselves, without outside intelligent intervention, tend toward disorder. Since the universe has not reached a state of total disorder, this process has not been going on forever.
Philosophical Evidence:
Time cannot go back into the past forever, for it is impossible to pass through an actual infinite number of moments. A theoretically infinite number of dimensionless points exist between my thumb and first finger, but I cannot get an infinite number of sheets of paper between them no matter how thin they are. Each moment that passes uses up real time that we can never again experience. Moving your finger across an infinite number of books in a library would never get to the last book. You can never finish an infinite series of real things.
If this is so, then time must have had a beginning. If the world never had a beginning, then we could not have reached now. But we have reached now, so time must have begun at a particular point and proceeded to today. Therefore the world is a finite event after all and needs a cause for its beginning.
Summarized:
1. An infinite number of moments cannot be traversed.
2. If an infinite number of moments had to elapse before today, then today would have never come.
3. But today has come.
4. Therefore, an infinite number of moments have not elapsed before today(i.e., the universe had a beginning.)
5. But whatever has a beginning is caused by something else.
6. Hence, there must be a Cause(Creator) of the universe.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: April 6th, 2003 06:20 am (UTC)		(Link)
"Errors" In the Bible

OK...After the nice long discussion of the "Problem of Evil" lets start one on the bible.
By the way, you may want to get comfortable.

7 Day Creation
The idea of Creation in seven actual days is actually more conceivable than evolution. First, evolution does not explain "jumps" in the chain. Second, if gradual evolution does actually happen, then the idea of a fish becoming a reptile is biologically impossible. In order for a fish to become a reptile it has to go through some major system changes. All these changes must occur simultaneously or blood oxygenation will not go with lung development, will not match nasal passage and throat changes, autonomic breathing reflexes in the brain, thoracic musculature, and membranes. Gradual evolution cannot account for this. If you accept the idea of evolution is spurts you are more supporting the idea of Creation over time than actual evolution. God could have created over an "age" and this would account for the jumps in fossil records. Speaking of fossil records, the idea of Adam and Eve putting the oldest human records ca. 4000 B.C. is erroneous because there could be gaps in the genealogy and therefore put the time back further. The problem of human fossils going back much further than this can be solved with a look at human fossil records. The decomposition rate of fossils can be great or small, depending on atmospheric conditions, pressure of the mud/rock on the bones and the like. Many times has carbon dating proven to be very inaccurate and unreliable.

Incest
This can be solved in a very simple sentence: God is all-powerful.
If God is all powerful, he can overstep the “incest problem” until the earth has been populated enough to the point where he no longer has to guide it. (The same applies to Noah’s Ark)

The New Testament
Correct. This is by far the most important.

Virgin Birth
The word that was used here was ‘almâ’. The translation is considered to mean young married or unmarried woman. The word ‘bethulah’ is supposed to mean virgin. But out of the many verses in the Bible that refer to married women, not once does it use ‘almâ’. Instead, the word ‘bethulah’ is used. The word ‘almâ’ is used several times as virgin(Gen. 24:43, Exodus 2:8, Psalms 68:25, Proverbs 30:19, and Song of Solomon 1:3 and 6:8)

The Census.
This is true, a census should not have required them to return to their hometown. But recently a stone slab has been found which tells Roman citizens to return to their homes if they are away that they may be registered. This makes it entirely possible that Mary and Joseph were required to do so as well.

“Conflicting” Accounts
The word for governor that was used in this text can also mean leader, and at the time, Quirinius was leading expeditions in Syria. The actual date of Christ’s birth is around 6-5 B.C. The calendar that was created in the 14-1500's (dates?) was off by 4 years due to conflicting ideas of when certain events ended.(Everything was So and So years after Such and Such event.) The final date that was decided was actually 4-6 ahead of when Christ was born.(Also the Date December 25th is off, Christ was born in the Spring!)

The Guiding Star
The Romans did not care about the stars. They rarely looked to the heavens for much. The Chinese on the other hand, kept excellent astronomical records and have recorded a large “star” in the west which stuck out above all. The “star” may not have actually had to have been a star, it is believed that it was a comet, not too outstanding but enough where someone who actually studies the stars would wonder what was going on.

King Herod: Killing Male Children
King Herod ordered all male children in Bethlehem to be killed. This would only be about 50-100 children considering the size of the town. In the Roman empire, 50-100 people is not much of a loss. There were more important things to record, wars, diplomacies, foodstuffs, explorations, etc. Something like this would be insignificant whereas today, if 1 kid were to die because of this type of event the whole world would know because of our media controlled lives.