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From: (Anonymous) Date: May 30th, 2003 12:27 am (UTC) (Link)
"It is true that, if a neutral person could choose a type of religion given their records, he would be unethical to choose the monotheistic strain of religion - the one that is the single main cause of 90% percent of all the worlds wars and genocides."

True. But if I go around killing people in your name it does not mean that you are wrong, immoral, evil, what-have-you. It means that I have some issues that need to be dealt with. Most people don't know their religion for shit because they were either raised that way, or had a "spiritual experience" that caused them to believe what they do without questioning it. This is why most religious persons have to resort to killing. They do not know whether or not their religion is actually true based on logic and reasoning so in order to "beat" the other deity they have to kill the followers. Although, the Koran actually tells its followers to have people "convert or die". Almost every time two religions "conflict" they must be dealt with this way because they have no way to test it for truth. Christianity on the other hand, can be tested due to the historic nature of the doctrine, which is sad because so many Christians think their belief is just like everyone else's.
vexen From: vexen Date: May 30th, 2003 07:37 am (UTC) (Link)
The Bible is hardly a historical document.
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 15th, 2004 06:06 am (UTC) (Link)


How do you know that the bible is not a historical document? it has been around for at least 2000 years and so therefore surely it would be an historical document? just because you deny to believe in God does not mean that the bible is not true and not an historical document. Have you ever had an experience with the spiritual world?
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 25th, 2004 04:24 pm (UTC) (Link)

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I suggest you find out the origin of the Bible. You will find that the Catholic Church set up a committee to decide what goes in and what doesn't. Every so often, another committee re-examines the Bible and revises it. So you see it's contents are arbitrary. Over time it changes, little by little. In otherwords it evolves. Just like all religions. If you examine the life of any religion, it grows and changes splits up and eventually becomes a dead religion. In my crossword cheat book, there are hundreds of Gods and Religions listed in order of number of letters. Most of them have no followers. The same fate awaits all the existing live religions. As for Christians, I never met one.
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 31st, 2004 04:04 am (UTC) (Link)

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I dont think that you have ever read the bible and know that it is origingally written in hebrew and greek and that the bible's editions are not all written from catholic committees and they do not edit what goes in and what doesn't at all. The bible is the word of God and always has been and always will be, at the end of the day if you do not accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour then when you die you will go to hell, that is no joke and if you chose not to then you will burn in the fires of hell forever and ever. Whatever religion you choose there is only one true religion and everyone purpose in life is to serve God and to know that his words are true and that not all of the bible has come to pass yet, read Revelations.
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 15th, 2004 07:37 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Ok, I just have to show that I have read the Bible, all of it, not once but six times and I have started reading it again for the seventh time! Why? Because it fascinates me that some people believe it to be the "word of God" and I can't see why. Almost every page contains something that bothers me. However, to save space I will only quote one example. It is from Matthew 24:29-30 supposedly spoken by Jesus :

"Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory".

There are several things that bother me about this, for example, as everyone knows, stars are mostly vey big. If they fell from "heaven" the earth would be destroyed so the tribes wouldn't be alive to see the remaining dramatic events. Clearly, Jesus thought that stars are small and that our puny gravity could attract them. I would expect the son of God to be a little better informed, wouldn't you? It is also obvious from this reading (and many others) that "heaven" is what we would call the sky. So do I believe in "heaven" ; yes, I have seen it many times and I've been there (in an aeroplane), but I don't want to spend eternity there, dispite the brilliant views. We know that the light from the moon is just the sun shining on it, so clearly the moon could not "give up her light" as she hasn't any. From this and many other examples, it is obvious that the people of the Bible had a poor understanding of the universe and that includes Jesus, who was supposedly in direct contact with God (or IS God according to some "authorities"). As for the Son of man coming in the clouds? Sorry, I just don't believe that's going to happen (and neither do you - go on - admit it).
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 8th, 2004 09:04 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Yes, I believe you have read the Bible. What astonishes me, is how you can read it 7 times and not believe. Well, since you don't believe and, therefore, DON'T KNOW GOD, it is all "foolish" to you. To us that do belive, we realize who God IS. God can make anything happen ... even Jesus riding in on the clouds! AND HE WILL AT THE APPOINTED TIME. You just don't understand who God is. As God says in the Bible, "My ways are not your ways." He also says our "wisdom" (human wisdom that is) is nothing but "dung." It just doesn't mean anything. God's wisdom is the wisdom to have. But, of course, you don't know God so, you can't gain His wisdom. Like I've said before, stop talking about God because you don't know Him. When you do come to know Him (and I pray you do) please feel free to create a whole website about Him (boy, what a great evangelist you would make if you were on the side of God). Just, please, do all of us a favor, STOP TALKING ABOUT CHRISTIANITY, GOD AND JESUS!!! PLEASE!!! I don't care if you talk about all those other, false, satanic religions, but STOP talking about God and Christianity! You don't have a right to if you are not a TRUE, BORN-AGAIN, BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIAN. Remember, you know Satan well and he knows you. TALK ABOUT HIM AND HOW TO GET TO KNOW HIM BETTER. Explain all of his great traits (HA! HA! what a joke). I should be a comedian. Get out of the "GOD" business! Gee, remember, you don't believe in Him. Why do you talk about Him so much??? I know, you must, real down deep, be afraid you are wrong about HIM??? Well, and I say this lovingly, YOU ARE WRONG. But, I can't convince you of that! REMEMBER, you love Satan and he hates you. Satan does not love ... he's incapable. As for Christians, we are full of love ... God's love. :>
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 4th, 2006 03:26 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Who are YOU to tell people whether they can speak about God or even if God exists or evoultion not you sanctimonus JACKASS we can talk about whoever we like especailly when rubbish like you commit atrocities and other filth in Gods name (Bush, Bliar Other Chritian rubbish) why don't YOU shut your fat propaganda mouth and let people work it out for themselves you self deluded """"""Born Again""""" chrisitain jerkweed
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 5th, 2007 02:55 pm (UTC) (Link)

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hey - not sure you quite thought about that passage enough my friend - have another read and see what you can work out next.
From: (Anonymous) Date: December 12th, 2011 08:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

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I see where your coming from, but do you really take everything you read as exactly literal:
"The stars will fall from heaven" - are the stars we see in heaven? That is one question, if we answer this yes, then stars can fall and not hit Earth, there is nothing that makes the assumption they fall and hit Earth.

"the sun be darkened and the moon shall not give her light" - the sun will be darkened, pretty obvious that the sun will 'go out' and God being all powerful can do this, therefore consequently "the moon shall not give her light" as there is no sun - the moon does in effect have a light otherwise we would not see it, as you can read, the sequence of events makes scientific sense, no sunlight - no moonlight

"'heaven' is what we call the sky" - just becuase heaven is quoted as being 'up' or 'above us' does not mean it is the sky - we cannot reach heaven, so therefore as we can fly through the 'sky' that cannot be what the Bible refers to as heaven.

The Bible was people written, God inspired. It has predicted so much more than even scientific knowledge from 50-60 years ago could have predicted. It said binge drinking would become a culture, it even told us disease would become resistant to man made drugs, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but even by historians the Bible is a very reliable historical text - it has many other texts supporting it, it was written much closer to the events it talks about than many other highly aclaimed historical texts, it has remained wholey unchanged dispite numerous translations - not adaptations. The fact such a coherent book was written by such a wide variety of people indicates a somewhat greater orchestration of its writing - and not by a commitee or panel of people.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 9th, 2004 02:03 am (UTC) (Link)

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you are an idiot.
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 10th, 2004 08:23 am (UTC) (Link)

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I suggest you look to the origin of the Bible! It comes straight from God. It's His instruction book for us while we are here on earth. You know, if your heart is "hardened" to God and His Truth (Bible), you will NEVER believe what I'm saying or anyone else, for that matter. I can only pray your heart is not hardened yet. Satan IS the ruler of this world, God cast him down here when he "rebelled" and tried to "usurp" God. But God IS "fair and just" and was so to Satan before throwing him into hell ... so, God decided to give him a "trial" of sorts and we are his trial. As Jesus/God said in the Bible, "You serve one of two masters." There is not a "Gray area." You either serve God or Satan. Satan is VERY REAL and present on this earth. As Jesus calls him, "The prince and the power of the air." Satan is the father of lies and deceit. He prowls the earth looking for people like you, who do not know God, and are vulnerable to be swayed to his side (remember the "trial"??). He makes you believe that you should do everything that "feels good" to you and to hell with everyone and everything else. He also sways you into not believing what God has said. He did that with Eve in the Garden, he said, "You don't really believe God and what He has told you? Do you? And he then deceived her into eating the "forbidden fruit" of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. He told her, "If you eat of this tree you will know ALL that God knows and become like Him." Yes, Satan is very real, ... the Serpent of Old, the father of lies and deceit. It's too bad he swayed you to his side. You see, even Satan knows the deity of God/Jesus. Actually, Satan knows "scripture" and has a better understanding of theology and who Jesus Christ is better than any "born-again" Christian! This is because God created "Lucifer" and he was one of God's most beautiful and most powerful angels. He, at one time, dwelt right with God, until he rebelled and he was cast down to the earth. It's funny, everyone believes that Satan is some ugly, red, horned being. When, actually, he is "VERY BEAUTIFUL." You see, that's why he is soooo deceiving. He makes every "sin" seem delightful and good. But you see, when Eve at the forbidden fruit, God told Adam and Eve if they did, they would surely "die" ... not only "physically" , but more importantly, "spiritually" ... and then sin entered the human race and God cursed the earth. However, God always knew this would happen and He made a provision for His creation because He loves us, he sent His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the Cross for ALL of our sins, past, present and future so that we may become Holy in His sight and we can then commune with God and live erternally in Heaven with Him. You see, because of the fall of man (to sin)through Adam, we are all born inately to "sin." I mean you never have to teach a child to be "bad" do you??? It just comes "natural." You have to teach the child to be good though, don't you??? So, I pray erenestly that God breaks down the walls of your heart and Satan's hold on you, so you can become free of the slavery of "sin" and have a personal, loving, etc. relationship with Jesus Christ. Not that you will NEVER sin again, but when you invite Jesus into your heart and confess you are a sinner and can do nothing about it without His help, He will come and reside in your heart. And, as you read God's Word and the Holy Spirit will help you discern it, when you do sin, YOU WILL KNOW IT BIG TIME, and will then desire to turn from it. You still have your "free will" and "old sin nature." You never get rid of that until you die and go to heaven. However, you will be free of the "slavery to sin." You will feel so free and happy, it's undescribable. You will have a "true" happiness that is not of this world, but from God. And you will desire to please and serve God, which will bring you that "true happiness" that you really desire and don't understand why you can't seem to ever achieve and/or find it. It's because that void in your heart/mind, is the absence of God in your life. As I said, I can NEVER make you believe, ONLY God can do that. :>
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 15th, 2004 05:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Today, whilst trying to repair my garden gate, a boy of about 7 years approached and asked me what I was doing. Pleased that someone was interested in my problem, I told him about the rusty bolts and how the heavy metal gate had suddenly broken loose and what I planned to do about it. Thinking that he might have a thirst for knowledge and as it was a beautiful day with a clear blue sky, I said "I wonder why the sky is blue". I suspected he didn't know and would enjoy finding out. However, I was wrong, for he immediately replied "Because God made it blue. He made everything!".
So for him, no further investigation necessary. I couldn't help thinking that if everyone thought like that, we would still be living in the dark ages. No modern medical facilities. No electricity. No printing presses. No computers. No cars. No bombs. Hey, maybe we'd be better off ! Then I realised that he would probably grow out of his simple explanation for everything and I decided to leave it there and not try to change him. Then, suddenly, without any particular reason I asked him another question. "Why is it that monkeys, cats and mice have tails, but we don't?". He said "Because God didn't want us to have tails". I didn't ask any more questions. Oh, by the way, the gate is now fixed and works better than ever !
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 15th, 2004 07:46 pm (UTC) (Link)

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No, the Bible really did come from a Catholic committee. They considered hundreds of books and decided which ones to include. Find out. It really did happen that way. Also they picked some that they were not sure about so some Bibles have extra books. If you ever go into a Catolic church, have a look at the Bible on show. They usually have those extra books. Many others were left out entirely because they didn't serve their purpose. Go to any library and research the origins of the Bible. You really will be shocked. I'm not making this up, please believe me. Go check yourself.
From: death_emblem Date: July 7th, 2004 11:58 am (UTC) (Link)

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"He prowls the earth looking for people like you"... lol im sry to be rude but it seems like your tellin a horror story.

I've been a Christian and i've seen the dark, unacceptable behavior of many christians. I've been attacked physically and verbally because when i was a christian, I didnt attend church. It honestly wasnt my fault, i had no ride or lived by anyone who drove by or went to church and i sure as hell wasnt walkin... so i was ridiculed by the christian church-goers for my inability to go to church.

The Bible really doesnt come straight from God himself, or it wouldn't include so many inconsistencies and contradictions. If God created this book (and God is perfection remember, in both inteligence and love), then he would be sure not to write something that could be proven false by the bible itself. Come on people! Are you afraid to learn the origin of the Bible? Many Christians refuse to even look at evidence that would prove their religion wrong. They think that its the devil tempting them... well if it is, you can pray for mercy later....

"I can NEVER make you believe, ONLY God can do that. :>"

How 'bout I use my "free will" and tell Christ to f**k himself :>

From: (Anonymous) Date: July 19th, 2004 02:42 am (UTC) (Link)

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Hi You really are quite sad and on that day when Jesus returns and EVERYONE has to bow and worship him then you will be so sorry to have said such things, but by then it will be too late for you, please don't let it be too late for all of you, know that your purpose and the reason that we are all here is to serve Him, God sent his only son to die on that cross so that we might have eternal life, would you send your child (if you have one) to be beaten and whipped so that you could no longer tell he was a man? would you allow him to have a crown of thorns beat into his head? would you then watch as he carried his own heavy cross for miles and then see him put himself onto it and then be nailed to it? I most certainly would not want that for my child and I wouldnt be able to do that myself, but Jesus did that for us all alone, and still at the end he cried out 'father please forgive them for they don't know what they do', 'not my will but yours be done', can you imagine that someone would do that for you, so that all the sin in your life could be forgiven and could go on being forgiven? its just amazing to me that anyone would do that for me!!! Only God can soften the hearts of the unbelievers and I pray that when the time comes and Jesus returns that you will have realised the truth and come to know Him for yourself, its a hard path to walk for Him and only true men and women can do it and can stand up and say yes I believe and without him you will go to hell and you will burn for eternity, I most certainly do not want this to happen me and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
This is so serious and you all need Him, without Him its impossible to please the Father, God and I wouldn't want to face God's wrath.
From: death_emblem Date: July 19th, 2004 12:23 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Dear someone,
I truly appreciate your concern, and i understand you are trying to help us, but it is not my belief. Do not think i'm an evil person for rejecting christianity, i reject other religions and they all say that i will pay dearly for it, so i figure either way im screwed. I will absolutely become christian if the inconsistencies are explained or if jesus comes to earth and shows himself, otherwise, there is no point in guessing what happens after we die because no matter what you think, hundreds of people will condemn you for it.
I thank you very much for wanting to help me find true happiness, but i can find it myself.
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 21st, 2004 07:37 am (UTC) (Link)

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Hi, well if thats the way you feel then thats up to you just remember that when Jesus returns it will be too late for you, every knee will bow and have to worship him, all the best for finding 'true happiness' I can only pray that you learn the truth before that day comes.
From: death_emblem Date: July 21st, 2004 09:29 pm (UTC) (Link)

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if god is really completely forgiving and loving then he will understand where i am coming from... I've enjoyed arguing with you, and will miss the threats of hell.
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 29th, 2004 10:20 am (UTC) (Link)

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Yeah Yeah what utter rubbish by the way you santimounius Christian you are a damn sinner too so don't YOU forget that especailly with all the slavery your kind inflicted on Africa and other parts of the World saying your doing this for "God"

The Fall Of Mam? how about the deliberate stumbilation of Man just to eleivate the bordom after all if God Is all Good why create a tree of Good and Bad in the 1st place if he is all Good? Satan , if free will is for all creatures and Satan was puffed up with pride why bother putting a tree there? Satan would have tried something else to pull man down, so he sent His son did he? and er how exactly do you see "this son" is he God? how can anyone belive half of these so called Christians who say God is the Father the Son and The Holy Ghost, do you so called Christians actually know ? NO YOU DON'T KNOW and what type of God has a HELL to burn his human creatures for the 80 or 90 years of "sin" they were alive on the Earth an Evil God that is what,

You lie about hell because if Satan is in opposition to God, no way will he make hell for God and burn humans , there no matter how wicked because it would backfire on Satan spectacluarly, if God exisits you wouldn't need to be dead for Him to show what happends if you are bad, He would simply show you, show every human who ever lived.
And what is the point of making a planet if when you are "good" you go to heaven, don 't give me your "test on Earth" rubbish, you forget about the Angels that came to the Earth to "fornicate" with the daughters of men? So what happens to Earth is it blown up? and the amount of contradictions in the Bible if this God "cannot tell a lie" are so numerous it is unbelievable.

Confess you are a sinner? why what for ? to live in Christian guilt every single second of our lives when really all this is
nothing more than an experiment with fleshy slaves to see how they act when they are both "Good abnd Bad"? you talk rubbish Christian. After all it is you religions who hampered and backwardised people in your own selfishness and greed rrather regonising that what came from the Human mind could potentially come from God Yes your stupid Roman Catlic religion and the bleeding Prostants as well

And how can you be "Born Again" huh? you are born once unless you die and are ressurected God is "fair and just" another lie as you would throw the very liar, deciver and murderer of your Earthly children to the planet they are on, tell me the justice in that hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

You talk the cliche talk yet you fail to explian these things Chritian

Black Angel
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 18th, 2004 09:22 am (UTC) (Link)

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Black Angel, oh dear not even worth bothering to argue with you, however hopefully before you die or Jesus returns whichever comes first you will learn the truth and discover your purpose, Jesus forgives all our sins past, present and future.
One day you will know that Jesus is true and you will bow and worship him.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 13th, 2004 09:28 am (UTC) (Link)

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Why would I fall to my knees and worship a creature who has lied these past two minelliua about being "all perfect and all kind?" besides Jesus Christ is supposed to be the son of God , not God go read your own bibles and you will see it is so. You are just talking rubbish because you know you can't prove me wrong you follow the party line like all the blinds dogs that do

Instead of keeping your mind so closed why don't you go back and actually read the bible ? why don't actually work it out ? An all perfect and Goid God CANNOT , CANNOT make a tree of Good and Evil it is impossible , if it can the the God is evil, deal with it

Black Angel
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 16th, 2004 05:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

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You simply don't want to believe in God/Jesus. No one can make you believe. I pray you do some day. Why are you looking for reasons NOT TO BELIEVE??? Why not look for the reasons to believe??? Also, I'm a "born-again" Christian and Jesus stated in the Bible, "When the world hates you and persecutes you, remember that IT HATED ME FIRST." So, I understand your hatred of me and why you love to persecute me. I also accept it. And, as Jesus/God says in the Bible, "Love your enemies. If one slaps you on one cheek, turn the other so it can be slapped." So, I accept your slap and love you with a Godly love and full of prayer for you that you come to know God's Truth. Gee, I sound evil, don't I???? How is that evil??? You make no sense. Also, myself, as a born-again Christian and other true born-again Christian's, goal in life is to bring God's Word to all peoples/nations of the earth so all will know God's truth and, along with doing that, we feed & cloth the poor, visit prisoners in prison and help all people in time of need. We do this not for ourselves but for the people we are helping and for God. We don't do it selfishly, etc. How is that evil? And my faith in God/Jesus leads me to do these things. So, how could God/Jesus be evil? I believe you just love being rebellious towards God! Well, have at it. I can only say you will be sorry on the day you die. Are you willing to take that chance? Remember, your "eternal destiny" depends on your decision. :>
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 26th, 2004 04:42 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Born again Christian (whatever that is supposed to mean, listen you are born a so called sinner you will die one and no about of human self dillusion will change that) you simply can't take it can you? all you do is provide the cliche answers to a question you can't answer an All Good God dosen't put a tree of knowledge of good and bad for his offspring to eat and fall into sin and death does he unless he wants a some fun? a little distraction? or simply make his entire earthly offspring live in guilt. As a matter of fact if you all good and perfect you don't even come up with ideas of Good and Evil let alone put it in a tree when you have a very powerful spirit about to rebel, so that blows your "God is Love" theory right out of the water

And your Christian religions should go and feed the poor and hungry after all its you bastards that made them poor ripping up the Earth , destroying whole cultures because they weren't "Christains" what was it ? they were Heathen? cultures more civlllisied than your Christian savages yeah especailly your "Warrior" chaplins(hmmmmmm I am sure even your Christ didn't go out a nd slaughter millions saying he is "redeeming them" like these creature still do)who wwent out and stole other peoples riches and still do steal other peoples riches i.e. oil, so you should do something about your great sin as you people like to convieniatly forget about hmmmmmm?



From: (Anonymous) Date: November 26th, 2004 04:43 pm (UTC) (Link)

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Don't you worry about my "eternal destiny" worry about your own

Black Angel
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 10th, 2008 03:01 pm (UTC) (Link)

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But if I Love you I do worry about your destiny. I don't want to see you suffer. We are all connected. You are I. And I am You. We are living on this earth to Love and help each other.
From: (Anonymous) Date: January 29th, 2006 08:14 am (UTC) (Link)

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The bible has truth in it as all doctrines do but this neither means they are perfect. How do you know that the bible has remained unchanged for 2000 years. You cannot prove that. You are of this day and age and only have the bible of this age to go on. It could have been altered many times in 2000 years. Believing all it says just because you have been told it has been around for 2000 years does not mean that in that time it has not been altered. Belief, faith in god is personal. Noone can show you or tell you absolute truth. Religion is man's making. The bible was written by men and men are not perfect.
From: sera_michele Date: March 27th, 2004 07:16 am (UTC) (Link)
Anonymous, I happen to think that your excuses are poor ones. 90% of all the worlds wars and genocides is a HUGE amount. It really has to set an alarm off in your head that SOMETHING just isn't right here. Possibly has to do with God's reputation of killing almost every man on earth because they were sinners (the flood)or destroying entire cities because they were sinners. If a large number of people in the world worship a violent and revengful god such as that...we end up with these inquisitions, genocidess, and war. I think it has been proven by history.
From: (Anonymous) Date: August 6th, 2005 11:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Id, Wales.

I believe in God. I know I don't understand anything about 'him/her/it/them', even though I've read lots of stuff about different beliefs of what 'it' is. If you go to Google Earth and look down on how sparkly the world is, you have to admit, we've got something going on in comparison to the dull lumps of rock around us. Arguing about it all just defeats any good feelings you get from having faith, and makes for a miserable conversation. It doesn't take a lot to know, in your heart, what is right and what is wrong. I believe that we all believe the same things, and those things are simple manifestations or reflections of our own humanity. Some people think they know more than others. I think that the truth is that we actually know shit. Either we are flourishing, or we are surviving. It depends on how you feel each day. But the truth about what we all are, as humans, is very easy to see. You barely have to think to know the truth. I suppose you need ears and eyes though. Psychologists believe that we all have the same needs, but different wants, depending on how we have chosen to identify ourselves. We can't even meet all our own needs yet. Why would 'God' give us anything else to play with? I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about anything, but we perhaps we should start every conversation with 'Hi, I'm Id, I don't know shit but...'. Then how could we wouldn't be able to say 'Hi, I'm Id I don't know shit, but I think you're going to go to hell'. It would just sound stupid. Coz that's what we are, even though we might be a bit sparkly.
From: (Anonymous) Date: August 6th, 2005 11:42 am (UTC) (Link)

Id, Wales.

I believe in God. I know I don't understand anything about 'him/her/it/them', even though I've read lots of stuff about different beliefs of what 'it' is. If you go to Google Earth and look down on how sparkly the world is, you have to admit, we've got something going on in comparison to the dull lumps of rock around us. Arguing about it all just defeats any good feelings you get from having faith, and makes for a miserable conversation. It doesn't take a lot to know, in your heart, what is right and what is wrong. I believe that we all believe the same things, and those things are simple manifestations or reflections of our own humanity. Some people think they know more than others. I think that the truth is that we actually know shit. Either we are flourishing, or we are surviving. It depends on how you feel each day. But the truth about what we all are, as humans, is very easy to see. You barely have to think to know the truth. I suppose you need ears and eyes though. Psychologists believe that we all have the same needs, but different wants, depending on how we have chosen to identify ourselves. We can't even meet all our own needs yet. Why would 'God' give us anything else to play with? I'm not saying we shouldn't talk about anything, but we perhaps we should start every conversation with 'Hi, I'm Id, I don't know shit but...'. Then we wouldn't be able to say 'Hi, I'm Id I don't know shit, but I think you're going to go to hell'. It would just sound stupid. Coz that's what we are, even though we might be a bit sparkly.
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 10th, 2008 02:57 pm (UTC) (Link)

Killing people in the name of someone

In a mass of people. There is confusion among some who are not what they say they are. The true christian would not kill. There are variations in life. Just like the satan worshipers who say "they" do not kill but I am sure there are that select few who do. You cannot look at the masses because there are fakes in all things. Let get real here.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 27th, 2010 07:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
First of all I want to for the most part thank you for dealing with this issue as you have. But I do take exception with you (not a huge concern I am sure) with the following statement.

You said...Although, the Koran actually tells its followers to have people "convert or die". Almost every time two religions "conflict" they must be dealt with this way because they have no way to test it for truth.

I am not denying that while it has been done in the past...(Even in the name of Christianity) I have yet to see in N.T. Scriptures where we are told we may abuse women...especially to the point of death, or to kill non-believers. This brings to mind the Scriptures "Love your enemies"...and "Do GOOD to those who spitefully use (or even abuse)you."

This seems to contradict your statement that our conflicts must be handled through death to non-believers.
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 24th, 2003 02:00 pm (UTC) (Link)

spiritual painting messages -get the picture
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 24th, 2006 05:12 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: spiritual painting messages

Oh sweetie. I could do the same.

I could take a picture of a nest of maggots, or a rotting carcass, and write 'God's Paintbrush' above it.

One and the same.

Toodle Pip.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 25th, 2004 01:00 am (UTC) (Link)

what is it?

im not sure what this site is. but it obviously uplifts God as being the master artist of all. i wish we knew more about the author.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 25th, 2004 01:40 am (UTC) (Link)

author identity

actually,... we do know a little about the author. on the bottom of their contact page shows that they are in the special forces. i used to work in portsmouth, building 14 is where some bad mother fuckers hang out.
From: gberikoff Date: January 13th, 2005 10:18 pm (UTC) (Link)

Baby killing god

lets see here
- every child and unborn fetus in sodam and gomorah (don't have a bible on me so pardom the spelling) except Lot and his family murdered by Satan? No, murdered by god.
_ every child and fetus on the planet except noah and his family murdered by satan during the flood? No, murdered by god.
_ the first born children of egypt murdered by satan because he had a problem with some human calling himself a Pharoh? No, murdered by god.
seems every time there is murder in the bible it is on the authority of god not satan. Why did satan rise up against god? Well obviously because god is a power hungry, baby killing psychopath. God of course reacted like every psychopathic baby killing murderer by calling anyone who opposed them a rebel, traitor, terrorist. As per usual every psychopathic baby killing murder can find some way to justify their brutality and fill the ranks of their military, police and intelligence agencies with a whole mass of sheep willing to carry out their orders by torturing and murdering innocent men women and children.
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 21st, 2005 02:59 am (UTC) (Link)
I like the way you think, and enjoyed your comments on monotheism. Here are some speculations of why monotheisms seem so bellicose:

It seems that there is a great deal of arrogance in the monotheistic way of thinking. I picture priests arguing like bullies in a school yard. "My god is greater than your god." And the argument escalating until one priest yells "My God is all powerful and all wise, and further more, yours doesn't even exist!" Of course, there is no way to know if such a religious arms race was the origin of monotheism, but is feels right. It may have happened that way, and this arrogance may help to explain the bellicosity of monotheisms.

Another possible source of monotheistic bellicosity is insecurity. Perhaps, deep down, most monotheists have doubts. The presence of unbelievers is a thorn in the side that constantly excoriates these doubts. Perhaps in trying to eliminate people who disagree with them, monotheists are attempting to eliminate their own doubts.
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 21st, 2005 10:37 pm (UTC) (Link)

the cornerstone "eisms" of religion...

There are therefore religions that are:
theist,monotheist,deist,pantheist,polytheist,athiest,agnostic{or open minded skeptical-such as Universism},these to my understanding are te "eisms"{well and "ic" as in agnostic}that all religions amongst humanity seem to be built upon, the basic building blocks of such, the cornerstones,the basis.


in reason:
Bill Baker
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 21st, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC) (Link)


"Our ego and our the way we anthropomorphize important concepts means..."

No need for the "our" before "the."

"The mono-theistic believes it seems, are particularly prone to bouts of genocide and war in..."

Should be "believe(r)s, it seems..." right?

"Frequently you will need to address cultural beliefs amongst the religion' followers,"

Religions' or religion's.
vexen From: vexen Date: March 22nd, 2006 02:40 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Typos

Thankyou, I've corrected all the things you pointed out.

The last part of the page is a 2-paragraph quote from my other page on "Cultural Religion Versus Scholarly Religion", which I editted then re-quoted.
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 25th, 2006 08:54 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Typos

"'ll find a Catholic committee was set up to decide what goes in and what doesn't"

That is totally untrue. The bible we have today was already in existance before the Roman Emperor Constantine changed the official Roman religion to Christianity in the 3rd century AD. The Catholic Church didn't come about til well after that.
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