From: (Anonymous)	Date: April 4th, 2003 10:03 pm (UTC)		(Link)

people say that i worship the devil and sacrifice lambs on black marble alters etc. just because i am a goth, i dont believe in god/christianity, and i agree with alot the morals and values of satanism. These sort of people giv me the shits because its just plain ignorance for someone to say that i could beieve in the devil but not god because christianity created both. so u r being an ignorant dikhed if u say u r part of the anti christ and at the same time worship the devil, which these people must be accusing me of being if they say i am a slave 2 the devil. u cant believe in one and not the other so i choose to believe in neither because i associate christianity as being a scam that people such as priests etc. use 2 make themselves feel powerful and perfect so that they can look down upon inocent fools who belive they should be more like these people who misuse their power.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: September 16th, 2003 09:59 am (UTC)		(Link)

i think you're right because people who think they need to believe in god to be saved and shit they don't it's just in their damn heads. thats all

From: (Anonymous)	Date: April 23rd, 2005 11:48 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I am afraid that you have misunderstood a key element in the image of true satanism. The first sentence of the chapter "Wanted-God-Dead or Alive" in the book of Lucifer in the Satanic Bible states: "It is a popular misconception that the satanist does not believe in God. THe concept of 'God',as interpreted by man, has been so varied throughout the ages, that the satanist simply accepts the definition which suits him best." What this passage means is that satanism recognizes God and Satan, only in a different way than that of the church or the Holy Bible. For me, God is nothing more than a cosmic force that is present everywhere in the universe. Sort of like the force in the Star Wars movies. This force balances everything out. But because it is useless to worship this force as to expect some sort of salvation or good fortune, it makes more sense to worship the "here and now". Satanism is simply an elaborate and charismatic way to provoke the church, because they are self-decietful and masochistic assholes, while simultaneously not only accepting but embracing what really makes us human instead of shunning and denying it.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: May 31st, 2003 06:14 am (UTC)		(Link)
How can you worship something you don't believe in?

I am a Satanist. But I have realized very quickly that most Satanist don't even believe that his Infernal Majesty is real. This angers me! What is the point? I believe that The Devil is a very real entity. There are a lot of things that Dr. La Vey wrote about that is very dear to my heart, but this one thing loses me. I believe, in my heart, that the Morningstar, the first and most beautiful of all the angels was the only one with the BALLS to stand up to that impersonal, egomaniacal creator!!! Sure, you have groups like the Temple of Set who actually believe in Satan but they call him "Set" and bring in all of this egyptian stuff. To me, they almost get there (and they treat it like a real religion) but the miss it with the whole "Set" business. The Devil is the grest Accusser, the Original Renegade, and the one who gave us knowledge. If you all don't what to believe in that then fine. I guess that when Anton said that Satanism was the religion of the individual he wasn't kidding. Is there anyone out there who feels the way I do?
Hail Satan!
The Darkehorse

From: (Anonymous)	Date: May 31st, 2003 06:20 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

I posted that. My E-mail is: www.evildarkehorse13@aol.com

From: (Anonymous)	Date: April 23rd, 2005 11:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

I am a satanist aswell and what you have to realize is, satanism is a provacative religion. Mostly, it is meant to piss off the church. Satan is not a living being. THe church created satan as a means to frighten all of its subjects to aquiesc to the church's will. What satan represents is us. We as human beings with all of our carnel qualities and desires are summed up in an allegorical image which is satan. Satan is no more an actual being than God is an invisible man in the sky watching our every moves and bestowing crual ironies upon us for his own sick amusement. Satanists essentially worship the image and the concept of satan. In more simplified terms, satanists are basically worshipping themselves as human beings and not some phony excuse for how humans should be in the eyes of the church. I hope this helped to clear up those areas of confusion.
-Hail Satan!

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 19th, 2006 10:16 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

I have to ask this question, Why do you Hail Satan, that is complete contradiction to your above statement. And if Satan is just a made up myth to "upset the Church", then why invole him in the first place? But, just what if Satan is a real being??? What if God and the bible are true?? What if your wrong in your thinking??? What if you are just being destroyed and used by Satan to carry out his deception and murderous spirit? And what if you are held accountable for your actions, how will you answer ulmighty God on judgement Day?

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 20th, 2006 02:12 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

What if *you're* wrong, and Allah is the only God? Why don't you apply your own logic to yourself?

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 29th, 2006 04:03 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

Firstly, but not lastly, the one and only true living God is God himslf. God is love and nowhere in the bible will you hear of God telling people to murder and destoy people. You will find just the opposite in the Holy Bible. Thou shalt not Murder is one of the Ten Commandments Given to Moses by God. I admit I do not know the Koran from front to cover, but I know enough to see that christians are hated and should be put to death, etc. It all makes perfect sense to me that the God of this world, Satan, has blinded the minds of people, just as God has said. I was blinded by Satan also until I game my life to Christ Jesus, and know I can see the lies that Satan had blinded me by. In response to your question, jesus christ is God. jesus christ is the only prophet that was God and man. jesus christ was God and flesh. no other prophet or savior has ever been mentioned in this sense ever. this is how i know without a doubt that i am not wrong about my faith. i am not judging nor am i saying in anyway you should believe the way that i do. In conclusion, what if it is you who is "wrong"? Only judgement day will reveal who is right with God and who is not. There is only the "Truth", Jesus said "the Truth will make you free"

	From: vexen	Date: February 13th, 2006 09:34 pm (UTC)		(Link)
	Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

You said "nowhere in the bible will you hear of God telling people to murder and destoy people"

The Bible says:

Exodus 32:27-28 "[Moses' orders to his army] he said to them, "The Lord God of Israel commands every one of you to put on his sword and go through the camp from this gate to the other and kill his brothers, his friends and his neighbours. The Levites obeyed and killed about 3000 Men that day."
Exodus 32:29 "Moses said to the Levites, "Today you have consecrated yourselves as priests in the service of the Lord by killing your sons and brothers, so the Lord has given you his blessing."
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) "Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him (in other words: women that might be pregnant)."
Deuteronomy 7:1 "When Yahweh your god has settled you in the land you're about to occupy, and driven out many infidels before you...you're to cut them down and exterminate them. You're to make no compromise with them or show them any mercy."
Joshua 6:21-24 "With their swords they killed everyone in the city, men, women, young and old. They also killed the cattle, sheep and donkeys. ... And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the Lord."
Judges 20: A description of a battle, city-burning, no morals
Judges 20:42-48 "... and them which came out of the cities they destroyed in the midst of them. ... And there fell of Benjamin eighteen thousand of the best Benjamine soldiers; ... and they gleaned of them in the highways five thousand men; ... and slew two thousand men of them. So that all which fell that day of Benjamin were twenty and five thousand men that drew the sword; ... And the men of Israel turned again upon the children of Benjamin, and smote them with the edge of the sword, as well the men of every city, as the beast, and all that came to hand: also they set on fire all the cities that they came to."
1Kings 20:30 "But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; and there a wall fell upon twenty and seven thousand of the men that were left."
1Samuel 6:19 "The Lord killed seventy of the men of Beth Shemesh because they looked inside the Covenant Box."
1Samuel 15:1-8 "Now listen to what the Lord Almighty says. He is going to punish the people of Amalek because their ancestors opposed the Israelites... 3-8 : With 210000 soldiers they killed all the men, women, children, babies, cattle, camels and donkeys."

And many more like it.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: March 25th, 2007 02:10 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

God told someone to kill his own son. He then revealed it was just a test to make sure he would not have to share human love.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 18th, 2006 02:06 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

The questin is not what if but why not. God is the true God and Allah is a joke. You are kidding yourself my friend and you wil be a slave of Saran himself.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 20th, 2006 02:20 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

http://www.dpjs.co.uk/modern.html#Hail

From: (Anonymous)	Date: September 1st, 2006 10:28 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

yo, I totaly agree with you and I'm considering satanism as well, just after I read the bible of satan. I agree with you complietly, Satan is not a real being, he was made up by the church, or some gay fat priest who wanted total control over everyone. The guy that thinks that satan is a real being is agreeing with the church enforcing its power.
Thats all I have to say

From: acidburn_2006	Date: August 15th, 2005 02:17 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

Satanism is not about the beleif in a being like god for christianity satanism is the beleif in yourself u are the ultimate athority there is not high being other than youself. That is what rue satanism is i feel that you control your onw life and the that you have a high being indidcate that you really dont have any control over your life. and to each his own just because some other group does not do it the way you feel it should be does not make it wrong. ONe of the first things in satanism is that it is you who sets your own beleifs and how you want to perceive it.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 19th, 2006 10:21 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

You can't worship something that is a lie. Although you could and that would be called living in deception.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 20th, 2006 02:21 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

Hence: Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism... etc. The solution to religious lies is antireligion.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 29th, 2006 04:05 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

So you are an anti-christ then.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 18th, 2006 01:52 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

no but you can believe! God want you to have faith in his very word. He is up in heaven watching you every day and you need to believe in something and that is God. If you do not believe in God and do not accept him he will not accept you on Judgment day.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 27th, 2007 10:45 pm (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

i agree with you !good will rise and evil will fall into the abiss!

From: (Anonymous)	Date: June 18th, 2006 02:04 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

You dark horse have some problems to deal with. First of all that egomanical creator you are talking about could smyte you like a bug. But god, Jehovah Jirah, the king of kings, lord of lords, is not like that. He loves you so much that he put you on this earth to only love him as he one who created YOU! hail Satan my ass. Why do you hail an imposter of heaven who only wanted all power to himself. Pride is a sin my friend. Why would you love Satan, the spirit of destruction that will torture you and burn you to the very bone in the afterlife. When Judgment day comes and the 666 sign is presented on the foreheads of the antichristians you will be there scared as hell and will not turn back unless you change your mind now. God loves you and Jesus went through a long and painful death for YOU. You love a spirit that cannot be loved and he is only lurring you closer and closer to HELL!!!!!!!! TURN BACK BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!!!!!!

From: (Anonymous)	Date: July 1st, 2006 01:46 am (UTC)		(Link)
Re: How can you worship something you don't believe in?

Ijust come across this web sire. It is very interesting. I just read the comments on LOgic and GOD prepared by Vexen guy. I noticed that there is a guy popped out of nowhere like an angel and presented a very convincing proof that our beautiful universe definetely has a creator. (he is interpreting a collection of Risale- NUR answering all the questions) I suggest you first to read his comments and make a decision by yourself. Now I am suggesting these arguments on logic and God to everybdoy. Even in my deep inside I feel convinced by easing off all my doubts.

take vare

Eric