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"Lucifer" by Vexen Crabtree

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From: (Anonymous) Date: June 29th, 2003 11:27 am (UTC) (Link)

symbols for lucifer or 'practical' and 'infernal'

Hey,

I saw the chinese symbols under Leviathon.... do you know of any symbols for lucifer? I want to get a tattoo or something representing that.... otherwise it's norse runes.

any help is appreciated.

sev@chalingo.com
vexen From: vexen Date: June 29th, 2003 02:32 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: symbols for lucifer or 'practical' and 'infernal'

Alas, I don't know!
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 28th, 2003 12:28 am (UTC) (Link)

whats w/balck cats????

my cats was killed in a disturving way, an animal could not possibly have done that, it was cut in half and all the internal organs were gone, where i found there was no blood, it was a black cat, is this part of a satanic ritual? i just want to understand what happened to my cat.....
vexen From: vexen Date: July 28th, 2003 12:30 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: whats w/balck cats????

The Bible and Qu'ran have some pretty obscure, strange and occult-like practices involving animals, but The Satanic Bible and Satanists are only interested in Human Beings, not animals.

So, perhaps an angsty teenager, perhaps some dodgy religious person draining your cat of blood, who knows? Or perhaps it was ran over by a combine harvester. Who knows? Not me!
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 27th, 2004 10:27 pm (UTC) (Link)

if lucifer meand light

hello just reading commentary on lucifer .. one would think that afeter rendering the correct meaning of the name luciefer ... that it was referrring to the man adam..... since he was created in the heavenlies and placed on G-D'S HEAVENLY MOUNTAIN.... AND CREATED A LITTLE LESSER THAT THE ANGELS..... LUCIFER MEANS LIGHT BREAR..... AND SATAN WAS CREATED A BEAST OF THE FIELD FROM THE BEGINING.... SO WHAN DID HE BECOME LUCIFER? HE WAS NEVER AN ANGEL OF LIGHT TO BEGIN WITH SINCE HE WAS CREATED A BEAST IN THE BEGININNING ,./? ...............G-D CREATED GOOD AND EVIL..... AND FORM MY SEARCH OF THE SCRIPTURES ADAM GOT A SON IN HIS IMAGE , IN DUE SEASON ... NOT FROM LEARNED BEHAVIOR LIKE EVE DID....... THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO SARAH AND IBRAHM,,, IN GETTING ISAAC .... WHEN SARAH'S WOMB WAS BEYOND CHILD BEARING AND DEAD.... G-D BROUGHT FORTH THEIR SON.........READ PALSMS 1 .... I'VE READ THE KING OF TYRE AND SOMETHING IN ME FELT LIKE IT WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE FALL OF ADAM,,,,, BECAUSE THE WORDS OF THE LORD ARE SPIRIT AND HAVE SPIRITUAL MEANING...... SATAM WAS A LIAR FORM THE BEGINNING.... AND STILL IS.... HIS BEHAVIOR WAS THAT OF THE ANIMAL THAT HE INHABITED A BEAST OF ....FIELD AND THAT WAS HIS TRUE NATURE... AND I COULD BE WRONG.

THANKS LINDA DIVON

From: (Anonymous) Date: January 12th, 2005 02:52 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: if lucifer meand light

sorry linda your lost,and nice too
From: (Anonymous) Date: December 10th, 2004 11:06 pm (UTC) (Link)

Lucifer the light bringer

you state -"Lucifer has stolen God's power"

this is a concept of division of forces in the world as if power- energy
were symetrical and divided.

Power - energy - has no right or left
no right or wrong
it simply is

Power does not belong to God - therefore it can not be stolen from God

power must be used by those who can use power
by those who do not fear it
by those who do not fear failure
by those who do not fear misjudgment
by those who believe
that power belongs to them
Lucifer demonstrates to man how to use power
fear it not
be passive where it enlightens you
be engaged where it fullfills you
be who you know you are

From: (Anonymous) Date: January 23rd, 2005 03:17 am (UTC) (Link)
Lucifer was thrown out of heaven by god, because of his pride. Not because he chose to descened to earth in order to share his light. He is the same evil who tricked Adam and Eve in eating the forbidden fruit. Lucifer wanted to be above god. Although he never managed to accomplish this feat. God created everything you ever known or seen, including Lucifer and his minions. I have a question, who do you think cares more for you? God, who told the angels to bow before men, or demons who refused to bow before men claiming that they were inferior beings?
From: (Anonymous) Date: February 21st, 2005 03:06 am (UTC) (Link)

wut the hell

why the hell would u think satan was the light bringer u r fuckin nutz think about the 100 year bet u fuckin moron all u r is being a number that was nuged to satan u fool really think of wut ur saying and reread everything u have read becuz y would satan tell the truth so u don't follow him ummm nooooo
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 27th, 2005 08:56 pm (UTC) (Link)

question on a satanic bible, and a wiccan one if anyone knows

Hello,

I am christian, practicing the baptist beliefs, of course we study the holy bible.

I am not really aware of too much of the writings of a satanic bible, or a wiccan bible. I woudl like an answer before I was to buy one or both of these bibles for a cross reference on a situation with my work.

I work for a jail and our commanding staff recently put out that the only reading material that we are allowed to have on a post is a bible and a shift/post orders.

Being a Christian the bible thing is not a big deal to me, but it is a big deal of the rights that we have to practice whatever religion we want, if we choose to. So what would one do if they do not practice a religion I asked a supervisor, to them the bible is just a book, and not a book they would want to read. That person stated that it is a good thing for us to read, in case an inmate is having a spirtual problem, contemplating suicide or something, we can cross reference to the bible,

My question is this, does the wiccan, or satanic bibles have info dealing with suicide and other problems that could arise in that type of jail setting?
vexen From: vexen Date: April 28th, 2005 07:39 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: question on a satanic bible, and a wiccan one if anyone knows

The Satanic Bible was written by Anton Szandor LaVey, and it does indeed contain advise on suicide. The biggest piece of advice is: Never kill yourself. It is weak, irresponsible, but most of all stupid. Obviously it expands on these a little.

There is no Wiccan bible. Wicca is seperated into two main camps, Gardnerian and Alexandrian. Books are available by the most important Wiccan historians and theologians, but there is no central bible.

Also, in Satanism the Satanic Bible is not reverred or viewed as imperfect or infallible; it is quite a different (and very honest) book and held in different esteem to that which you would hold your Bible, Baptist.

It is indeed wrong that a jail would enforce particular religious beliefs on people and withhold religious texts from others. In no other developed country other than the USA could such a thing happen, I am a little shocked. Aren't there laws against doing that? Here, inmates and staff are legally entitled to religious books of any faith, you'd get fired for trying to restrict that.

All religious books help people with their own spiritual problems. Other peoples' alien religious books, obviously if forced upon them, would only make problems worse. Preventing people access to their own religious opiates CAUSES increased risk of suicide; allowing people access to their own religious books can help, and certainly can't hinder, peoples' spiritual healing.

Whoever is on your staff who made that order is completely lacking in compassion, human understanding, legal sense and humanity.
From: (Anonymous) Date: July 24th, 2005 02:32 am (UTC) (Link)

The Light of Lucifer

The Light of Lucifer is intelligence. The core energy is Love. The name of Lucifer is a title carried by the unnamed one. The idea of god is a hoax, introduced into superstitious minds by adolescent creatures like Yahweh, and perpetuated in the surface memories by religions. Now Lucifer walks the planet in human form. He is available for discussion with those who agree to open their arms and embrace love.
For further contact,Email; montecristos@bigpond.com
From: (Anonymous) Date: December 31st, 2009 01:09 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: The Light of Lucifer

....are you serious?

Of what you concieve of God is a spiritual trap in itself. Man has but a finite mind, and to comprehend the source with such is common. Lucifer is indeed said to walk these lands amongst the 'sons of adam', however, one would suggest the negative pole of christ-consciousness to be present.

You will see in the coming of three years the dawn of a new ag. An age that will allow man to truly love. Love cannot co-exist with conflict, therefore love is not currently present.

Heres a theory for you to consider, and only a theory as such. Consider that the 'bringer of light' is amongst us now. That who you percieve as lucifer is in fact symbolism of mans fall from the garden of eden, in that what 'God' had made man an image of itself is infact the spark of divine consciousness reaching for perfection..... an evolutionary feat towards spiritual completion.

Right now, light is inevitably being brightened with the dawn of a new generation who are much older as they seem. They incarnate today, mistaken by society as the 'Know-it-alls', the 'wanting-to-know-everything'...... also the misdiagnosed ADD/ADHD/Bipolar etc.

Know that the laws of Karma are made possible by our link to each other. Our ties from our own formless selves are but a hidden thread in the weave... and so, "what you sow, so shall you reap".

Love is amazing, follow your heart, it will guide you away from demonic forces of such absent light.

sadisticreality From: sadisticreality Date: January 6th, 2006 08:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
I read your website out of curiosty and it is always pointed out that you do not worship satan, yet your cult bears his name. I understand that part, and I do agree that Christianity *does* have it's faults, but I don't agree with the sacrificing buisness that has been stated here. Humans ARE animals, it is impossible to say that you only concern humans and not animals. Scientists, most of whom don't belive in god, are the ones that proved that humans are related to animals.
You make nature sound like it centers around death as well. Nature has death, yes, but it also is balanced by rebirth and new life. For something to die, it has to be born first, correct?
You say that stupidity is the root of all sins. Ignorance and innocence *isn't* a bad thing all the time. For example, a young child. Would they be concidered 'sinful' to you? I don't understand how you condemn someone for something that they have never known or experienced.
I'm not trying to critize your beliefs, I'm just trying to understand them. I was raised as a Christian, and kept on that path mostly because of the sterotypical sacrificing of animals and selling souls to the devil, ect. I hope you haven't found my comment too rude or critical, I just want to understand why this 'religion' is so compelling to people.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 2nd, 2006 02:16 am (UTC) (Link)
wrote this when i was 12 now 37

perpetual living of freedom awake and watching,the silent birds fly over the grey corridors of time,
time is ever as they stand there, outstretched like a great eagle,
flourishing the moon saying,
this is my existance, this is my excuse for man, this is my humble dwelling.

Then screaming from the heavens came loud bursts of thunder, pertrayed by light, a light of a god?
blinding exploding light into vast variations of colour that lit up the sky like a thousand lost soels bore no own living flesh,
and they screamed for their freedom,
they screamed but their longing was short timeless, timeless.

eyes rested on their brows and the black sun shone through painting their illusion. my email address is karen@catlow3.wanadoo.co.uk and my msn is karen.catlow@ntl world .com. dont expect a reply but thoughts are here,lovek
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 2nd, 2006 02:22 am (UTC) (Link)
wow man you rock
Listen - (Anonymous) - Expand
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 2nd, 2006 11:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
the world as we know it is all information of what is to come.look in a book and the first paragraph you see will be knowledge that you knead at the time. love karen@catlow3.wanadoo.co.uk
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 3rd, 2006 09:05 pm (UTC) (Link)
after reading the information that you gave, i was shocked to find i agree and indeed have empathy for what the truth states. love as always to bringers of truth and light k
From: (Anonymous) Date: April 4th, 2006 05:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Lucifer, meaning 'Light-Bringer' (Lux: light; fero: carry, bring) was a name given to Satan in about the fifteenth century, but in its meaning is clearly a reference to Satan as a Prometheus figure: when he urges Adam and Eve to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowlege, he is giving them knowledge and understanding - universally associated with light, and also symbolised by fire (hence Prometheus).
From: (Anonymous) Date: May 20th, 2006 09:02 pm (UTC) (Link)

good info

your info on lucifer is pretty good. you are right that he isn't satan which is important. You also didn't put that he was married to lilith which some people believe but i know its not true. i think people should learn and you don't bore people to death trying to read your site. Its a really cool site
From: (Anonymous) Date: June 19th, 2007 01:25 pm (UTC) (Link)

Lucifer

If you want to know who Lucifer is, then refer to www.666bydenniseugene.com and you will know a lot more then just the name of Lucifer. This site provides a free book download and shows that the Beast is Lucifer and the real God.

Enjoy,
Dennis
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 11th, 2007 06:14 am (UTC) (Link)
I saw Lucifer in person. I was walking by him when he telepathically communicated that he is lucifer. Then I sat next to him and looked at his wings. He said he prefers to be called Lance. Then he went in the body of one of my friends and I talked to him for like two weeks.

Has anyone else had an encounter with Lucifer?

Why me?
vexen From: vexen Date: September 11th, 2007 09:27 am (UTC) (Link)
You know, small seizures and brain blood clots can cause small neurotic events like hearing voices? I think your "Lucifer" episode is more medical than supernatural. If in doubt, look into the neurological studies of the causes of religion.

It is not enough to accept such experiences at face value; otherwise we would be led to accept the gods, spirits, demons, beliefs and powers of every crackpot out there. Either many of these 'experiences' are false, or, all of them are true!

So be very careful it is not your own physical mind playing tricks on you.

http://www.humantruth.info/experiences.html is an introduction to this subject.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 16th, 2007 09:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Vexen, do you believe that I saw Lucifer? I know that posted a long comment and you deleted it. It was a real supernatural experience.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 19th, 2007 11:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hi Vexen,
how come you are deleting all my comments? Do you want me to stop writing on here. Cause I will. Just let me know.

thanks,
Amy
vexen From: vexen Date: September 20th, 2007 10:57 am (UTC) (Link)
See my response that mentions this URL: "Christianity and Satanism are Completey Different Religion" by Vexen Crabtree (2005).

Feel free to comment, but, if I allowed psychadelic posts from the adherents of all religions, posting about their own experiences of their own mythological figures from their religions, no-body could have a meaningul discussion about Satanism, which is what this forum is for.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 20th, 2007 12:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Did you ever see Lucifer? or you just worship him?
vexen From: vexen Date: September 20th, 2007 10:52 am (UTC) (Link)
My text "Christianity and Satanism are Completey Different Religion" by Vexen Crabtree (2005) explains why your stories about your white-light visions of Lucifer and conversations with it, God and Satan are irrelevent to Satanism.

This is a site and forum for discussion of Satanism, in particular of LaVey Satanism, and I do tend to delete comments that are Christian, unless they are informational, useful and somehow relevant.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 20th, 2007 07:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Did Anton LaVay get inspired by Satan to write the Satanic Bible or was it his whole conception. Cause you know how God wrote the Bible but his people wrote it. Is it the same way? How was this book written?
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 20th, 2007 09:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
I came across this website when I googled 'Lucifer'. At first I wanted to share my experience. But then I started reading a lot of your satanic essays and was very enlightened by the philosophy. I look forward to reading more of your essays and start to understand it better, because my understanding and knowledge of "Satanism" was very little. Your essays help me get a bigger picture and clearer understanding of it.

Thanks for your enlightment Vexen,

Amy
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 22nd, 2007 08:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Vexen is so Hot. I love his beautiful eyes. They are so deep and inspiring. I'm sort of drunk right now cause I went out with my friends. But I had to say that Vexen is a god. He is sooo Hot. Mrs. Crabtree is a really lucky lady. Your so sexy Vexen. Your intelligent, sexy, and hot. Keep up the good work.
From: (Anonymous) Date: September 22nd, 2007 09:13 am (UTC) (Link)
(this is drunk talk) I love you Vexen, your my hero, you inspire me to be a better person and say to hell with "God" cause he is evil and unjust. Maybe I had to much wine, but you are Awesome.
From: (Anonymous) Date: October 2nd, 2007 11:25 am (UTC) (Link)
Hi Vexen,
I don't know a better way to communicate with you so I post on here. Feel free to delete my comment after my post. I just had this weirdest dream. I was with these two people who brought me to this cult. It was suppost to be a Christian place, but I knew that it was a cult by the way it was built. They had a dungean and it was in a forrest in the middle of no where so it was hard to get there. Well, when I got to the cult. You can tell that the people were brain washed " Christians". I told these people that I just saw Lucifer, and my experience with Lucifer. I told them that the Devil really runs this place. I saw by the look in there eyes that they were hypnotized into believing their religeon and lies. Then I escaped from there. I went to a near by gas station, where I found a friend and asked for a ride home. She was nice and said yeah. Then this man comes and puts his finger in my mouth. I said don't put your finger in my mouth cause you don't know where your finger has been. This man had a beard really long and dark with currles. He looked like a Jewish Hassidic man. Then I started pulling at his beard. Then I started telling him that the Devil tried to kill him, but God had a plan for him. At first this man blushed and then later his face changed like more serene looking when he realized that God really did have a plan for him.

My interpretation.

I was in a christian cult when I was younger. And I really wanted to get out of there till finally one day I had a chance to escape. The Jewish looking man in my dream was Jesus. I was talking to him, but in reality he was talking to me. I think that the devil really wanted to kill me, but the Deal that God made with the Devil is that he couldn't kill me. I really did see Lucifer and I think that his whole purpose was to kill me but he couldn't because he made a Deal with God that he couldn't. Because when I told him that I won't die like Jesus, he said "you won't die." You know most of my experience with Lucifer. Well in my dream, I told the man, you just saw Lucifer and he tried to kill you, so wake up, wake up, wake up, wake up. I kept telling the man to wake up, because God has a plan for you.

I really feel a burdan for you. I feel that in all your knowledge of everything you are still searching for the truth. You want to know the truth. You are searching for it. I can read it in your work. You are very intelligent. And you don't want people to come to you in a way that they base their religeon on feelings and what happened to them in a feeling way.
You want to know the truth in a way that can be expressed in an intellectual way.

That's how Satanism hits home for you. Because it target's your intellect, but I still see the DOUBT that you have because it still didn't answer all the questions for you. You are curious with Christianity, but it didn't hit home for you. It touches on too many intangible things, to much Faith.
YOu would rather prefer DOUBT over FAITH.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.
When we have faith we have evidence of thing that we can't see or understand. You want to know God. You even thought of ways that if you were God how would you make this world a better place. You want to solve the world's problems by making a better God.

I don't know if I hit any targets. I just woke up because in my dream, I kept saying wake up, wake up. I think it called for a spiritual awakening as well as a physical. I got up. (that's physical) now I need the spiritual awakening.

Maybe you are more spiritual and that's why you got into satanism. I sort of could see why you got into it. You have been into Satanism for thirty years and a memeber of the church of satan for ten. That is a long time and I feel that it is ingraned in you. BUt deep down inside of me, I still feel that you and I both are searching for the real Truth. Not just religeon but reality. You say Satanism is a reality for you. But I don't feel that you really got the reality in the Truth that you are searching for.

From: (Anonymous) Date: October 17th, 2007 05:14 am (UTC) (Link)
Hi Vexen,
How is the satanism coming along? How are you? Just dropping by to say hi.

peace in the middle east.
take care.
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 30th, 2008 02:55 am (UTC) (Link)
Hi Vexen,
I want to make a correction about the time i wrote God is evil. On the contrary I discovered that God is very Good and very Awesome. One day we will all meet God.

God Loves.

take care,
camelia

if you delete this comment please delete the other comment that I wrote because that's the main reason why I am writing this one.

thanks,

I am praying for you Vexen.

with love,
camelia
From: (Anonymous) Date: March 30th, 2008 02:48 am (UTC) (Link)
Hi Vexen,
I feel I have to make a correction to one of my statements about that God is evil. Really God is very good and very Awesome. God is real and is not dead. Someday we will all meet God. Isn't that Awesome.
take care,
Camelia

and if you want feel free to delete every comment I ever posted on here.

God Loves!
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