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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards
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Nothing is New: Religions Evolve
"Nothing is New: Religions Evolve" by Vexen Crabtree (2007)

Religions evolve over time, with no genuinely new elements. We see how folk-lore can gradually change into a religious story, how movement of stories from one place to another can create seemingly new religious ideas, and how all the elements of world religions pre-dated the religions they are now part of. The implication of so much re-use and human involvement in the propagation of religious memes is that there is no supernatural or divine component to the origin of religion. Religious histories have unfolded as if there are no gods or spirits, but only Human nature, to guide them.

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Current Location: Mönchengladbach, Germany

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Moojan Momen's 8 Categories of Religious Experience

"Categorizing Satanism: Moojan Momen's 8 Pathways to Religious Experience" by Vexen Crabtree (2007). The categories are not designed so that each religion fits one category; most religions cater for multiple types of religious experience. The more successful religions accept more types of religious experience. How does Satanism fit with each mindset?

  1. Ritualism
  2. Legalism
  3. Evangelism
  4. Social Reformation
  5. Asceticism
  6. Monasticism
  7. Gnosticism
  8. Mysticism

The conclusion reads:

Satanism provides some acceptable elements for those looking for: ritualism (2/5), social reformation reactions (2/5), some philosophical forms of asceticism (2/5) but most of all for those who enjoy the intellectual and counter-cultural side of gnostic forms of religion (4/5). It will be acceptable to only the few mystics (1/5) who can ignore the heavily skeptical and rational theology of Satanism. It provides nothing for those who would seek out, or attempt to justify, legalistic, evangelical or monastic religious experiences as Satanism is highly individual, socially decentralised and world-embracing.

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Current Location: Monchengladbach, Germany
Current Mood: annoyed
Listening To: "Nothing At All" by Lights of Euphoria

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Satanism and Melton & Moore's 8-family religious categorisations
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Satanism is a World-Affirming Religion
"Satanism is a World-Affirming Religion, not a World-Renouncing One" by Vexen Crabtree (2007)

Drawing on the useful distinctions Roy Wallis of religions into the mainstream world-accomodating, world-rejecting (think isolation, christian monasteries, nihilism, buddhism) and world-affirming (materialistic religions, some philosophies, daoism), I measure each type against Satanism. I do not just point out that Satanism is a materialistic, world-loving religion, but also examine what points of similarity and difference it has with world-accommodating and world-rejecting ones (surprisingly, there are some areas of agreement).

Roy Wallis' categorisations are based on the reaction of a religion to the environment of the world. I am soon going to a similar category-comparison to J. Gordon Melton and Robert Moore, who grouped new religions into eight 'families', largely based on their internal beliefs.

And finally, a third comparison will be with the categories that Mooman Moojan, William James and Max Weber all came up with.

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Satanism is not Christian
"Satanism is not Christian or part of Christianity" by Vexen Crabtree

The bulk of the text reads:

"Satanism is a different religion to Christianity. It has almost entirely different beliefs, difference sources and a different history. It's usage of words is different to that of Christianity. Satanism is not the worship of the Christian Satan, because then Satanism would be part of Christianity. In order to believe in the Christian Satan, you have to be a Christian. Satanists are not Christians, their beliefs are different. The "Satan" of Satanism is different to the Satan of Christianity. Just like when the Christians say "prophet", they do not mean the Muhammad or Zarathustra, they mean a Christian prophet because the others are not from their own religion. When Satanists say "Satan" they do not mean the Christian Devil. Satanists do not believe that Satan fell from heaven, because that is a Christian belief. There is no heaven to fall from, no God to do battle with, no hell to fall to. These are all ideas made up and used by Christians, and are not shared by Satanism."

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Listening To: "Coming From the Future" by Baphomet Method

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Satan in World religion

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A Satanist considers Satan as an archetype which is best expressed in English, using Western monotheistic religion as a reference, but does not accept the traditional role given to Satan by white light religions. When looking at different parts of the world, or at different religions, the nature of Satan changes accordingly. For example, what would a Satanist say is a Satanic rejection of the Buddhist or Hindu worldviews?

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Listening To: "Death of a child" by Ultraviolence

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"The Phenomenon Of Religion: A Thematic Approach" by Momen

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Listening To: "London Times" by Gary Numan

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Islam, Christianity and Homosexuality