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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

Problems with Heaven

Problems with Heaven: Free Will and Evil

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Re: you are dumb!!!

"People only have a choice AFTER they know the facts."
-Except, when they flip a coin. They have a choice, heads or tails, fact-of-the-matter is, they don't KNOW how it's going to land, but they still have a choice.

"Why doesn't God give people the facts?"
-He does, they're in a book called: "The Bible"

"I wasn't "created"..."
-What is that supposed to mean? Are you questioning what the word "create" means? Does a printing press "create" newspapers? Does a stamp "create" coins? Do wombs "create" babies??

"...I am the process of other chemical processes..."
-The chemical proccesses that "created" you? Or the chemical processes that didn't "create" you?

"If you want to say, "I believe everything has a cause EXCEPT God" then..."
-Actually, I don't recall him (or her) saying that.

"...what is the difference from me saying "Everything has a cause EXCEPT the Big Bang?"."
-The difference is people aren't saying "Everything has a cause EXCEPT the Big Bang," they are actually saying "The Big Bang was caused by..."

"We both believe in ONE uncaused thing..."
-No, your's is suppoesed to have a cause.

"your position is more illogical, though..."
-But it's not. God does not have a cause, therefore there shouldn't be need for an explaination. The Big Bang is supposed to HAVE a cause... which is what? You don't know, which leaves you with something that YOU didn't explain, which means YOUR position is illogical.

"...because there's no proof of your cause but lots of proof of mine."
-Actually, there's no proff of yours.

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