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Problems with Heaven

Problems with Heaven: Free Will and Evil


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Re: you are stupid f**k**g b*****ds

If you believe that people in Heaven have free will, yet always choose good... why do you think God created evil? That God created evil means that God is not all-good. Some people say that free will requries evil; but if you believe there is no evil in heaven yet people there still have free will, it means you believe that evil isn't required for free will. This makes God itself evil and immoral for creating evil without a reason.

This argument is contained on http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/theodicy_heaven.html

Re: you are stupid f**k**g b*****ds

(Anonymous)
Where do you get that God created evil? All that God created was complete on the 6th day, evil was not present until the garden, with the serpant....Please explain.

Re: you are stupid f**k**g b*****ds

If God is the sole creator, it created everything. The very fact that suffering exists, and is possible, means that God created suffering. Anything which is experienced, or anything that is the result of anything else, is only a possible experience or reaction BECAUSE God created that particular phenomenon. God created good and evil, created Satan, created sin, made it possible for genetic diseases to exist, etc.

Think of it the other way round: If God didn't create (for example) electrons or the processes that create electrons; then would there be any electrons? No. They can only possibly exist because God wanted it that way.

Same with evil.

good is not opposite evil, but complimentary.

(Anonymous)
The opposite of goodness is sinfulness, not evil. Evil is anything that tries us, any trial is an evil. Any temptation is an evil. But to do good, we must be tempted, this is what makes it Good. Evil is not wrong, only Sin is wrong. Evil is created by God, and all things created by God are Good. God does not create Sin.

God creates Good and Evil, Men create Sin.

my email address is sedestrian@imap.cc, if anyone would like to reply to this, or talk to me about this thread, subject, or anything, please let me know there.

-Iain

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