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Vexen Crabtree 2015

Problems with Heaven

Problems with Heaven: Free Will and Evil

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Ah ... Very Scienctifically intriguing

great site, with some incredible arguments

But I don't think we're supposed to think that God is benevolent. It never says this in the Bible (to my knowledge). Everybody tries to make God look all good and wonderfull, and say how much he loves us and everything, but let's face it, the Bible says that God is for HIMSELF before he is for us...I believe he loves us, but he loves himself MUCH MORE

So my explanation for why there is evil, is because it is for some reason (that we don't understand) beneficial to Gods plan. and Gods' plan (of course) is for the good pleasure of HIS will not ours!

I mean, after all, if there is no evil, or suffering, then there is no hell either. And if there's no hell, then that means it's not as important to know, and believe in Jesus, because there would be nothing to fear. And if God was benevolent, then there would be no reason to fear him, however Jesus warned us often of the capabilites of God, and the unimaginable horrors he could, and would cause you in hell if you break his laws, and don't repent.

I don't agree with people who say that the Bible contradicts itself in saying that God is love, and then saying that he has evil emotions as well, like anger, and jeolousy. You can be more then one thing. If you're loving, that doesn't mean that you can't hate as well at times.

I agree that if there is a God, it is the evil-type God that you describe. Try "The Christian God of the Bible is Evil" by Vexen Crabtree (2006) and "If there is a god, it is evil" by Vexen Crabtree (2003). The former looks at many of the actual verses you are referring to; God is described as evil and selfish, jealous and warmongering, etc.

There is no reason to know Jesus anyway... don't forget that Moses and other Christian forefathers are in Heaven... and they certainly didn't know Jesus (as they lived hundreds of years before anyone on Earth would even hear of him!). It isn't true that you have to know Jesus to get to heaven. See
"The Crucifixion facade" by Vexen Crabtree (2002) for more.

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