Vexen Crabtree 2015


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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

Theodicy essays

"The Problem of Evil: Why Would a Good God Create Suffering?" by Vexen Crabtree (2002)

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Re: Afterlife and Reincarnation Without God

“how do you account for all the people who don't believe in a god, but, do believe in afterlife or reincarnation? The existence of the worlds' Buddhists, for example, would answer your question: People find reasons to believe in reincarnation and afterlife despite not believing in a any gods.”

The point I was making here is that there is no more evidence for an afterlife or reincarnation than there is for god; therefore, if it is logical to assume for the sake of argument that god does not exist. It is not illogical to assume that afterlife does not exist as well. Bottom line, there are people who firmly believe in no after life, god, or anything postmortem. Those were the people pertinent to the discussion. I just wanted to illustrate the fact that it is not illogical to think many people do not believe in an afterlife and thus have no reason to be fearful of death.

“Not true, either. Our personalities, experiences and selves are all physical, contained in the physical nervous system of our brain. When we die, God could simply re-create our personalities in heaven; there would not need to be an existence of any souls in order for god to do that.”

This is entirely different debate that I don’t have time to go into.

“But it doesn't mean either have to exist, just because they could.”

I never said it did I was just pointing out that it was a logical possibility. No disagreement here.

You didn't actually back up your assertion with any logic, and, real-life facts (such as those who believe in afterlife, but not in God), disprove your assertion.

You misinterpreted my assertion entirely. A summary of the conclusion of this part of the argument would be: It is logical to expect that many people (not all or all who don’t believe in god) believe no conscious experiences will existence after death.

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