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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards


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Prayer

Prayer

Conclusion:

"God knows everything - everything we say in prayer, God already knows. The point of praying is definitely not to reveal things to an all-knowing God. God acts only when God knows it is good to act, the wishes of prayer can only ever be against God's will, as I have elaborated on above. So, when prayer works, how does it work? If prayer works, then it is either coincidence (you've prayed for something that was going to happen anyway) or, you knew what was best better than God did, and God intervened!. The latter is impossible. Magic, or prayers, when they are effective, must be against God's will. If you ask a Christian or a Muslim, what will they say is the magical force that acts against God's will? Satan's will. If a supernatural affect such as prayer goes against God's will, then it is Satanic. As such, prayer is either useless, or Satanic. What business, then, have theists got in praying? This is a warning to all god believers that they must be very careful of their own motives when they get together and pray for things!"

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Are you saying your "loving" God only loves people who happen to have the correct beliefs?

no. God loves everyone, but there is only one true religion, Christianity.

I said: "have you ever heard of a Muslim, Hindue or Buddhists prayer come true?"

In otherwords you haven't because they are false beliefs. I know Cristianity is the only true belief because god answers my prayers. My friend was banned from music (as a subject) in school because his dad thought it was bad for his career. I prayed with my home church group four days after he told me and the next morning he was allowed to go into music. Things like that have happened hundreds of times. you cannot say that its a coincidence. And it's certainly not evil, otherwise god wouldn't answer them.

Pagans, Muslims, Hindus all have miracles occur (including responses to prayer, miraculous saving from natural disasters & injury, etc). You need to read more comparative religion books.

Also, if God loves everyone, why would it only answer prayers from those who had the right beliefs?

And... there are so many forms of Christianity, are you saying they are *all* true? Or are only some types of Christianity true?

Re: Prayer

(Anonymous)
God would only answer prayers to him. If I said "hey Bob Shuttleworth!" Would you turn around and say, "thats me, what do you want?"
You have to pray to Jesus to get your prayers answered.


The only forms of Christianity that are true are the one's that follow the Christian Bible and believe and love Jesus/God. (ones that don't kill other people who don't believe in the bible)

You can also say you're a christian, and not be one.
It depends on what you do and If you know god personally

God would only answer prayers to him. If I said "hey Bob Shuttleworth!" Would you turn around and say, "thats me, what do you want?"
You have to pray to Jesus to get your prayers answered.


The only forms of Christianity that are true are the one's that follow the Christian Bible and believe and love Jesus/God. (ones that don't kill other people who don't believe in the bible)

You can also say you're a christian, and not be one.
It depends on what you do and If you know god personally

Re: Prayer

(Anonymous)
God can love you and still let you suffer if your suffering somehow served something he loved even more, like his "grand plan" Like, for example he let Christ die on the cross even though he loved Jesus, and therefore didnt want to see him suffer, but his suffering was essential to fullfilling something God wanted to see even more.

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