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Vexen Crabtree 2015


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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015


I chose my job, apart from the genuine desire to work for Europe, to get close to "normal" people. But I hate it. I work with the lowest scum of the Earth. My workmates epitimize trash culture at its worst, I'm actively insulted and attacked for owning books that aren't SAS biographies, for being interested in how things work and for being, basically, intelligent and sensible.

The kids here go out and get drunk every weekend, the only knowledge they have of Germany outside of our large work premises is where the pubs and brothels are. They are the worst of the worst, giving England a bad name whilst at the same time our job (collectively) is to promote harmony worldwide (with a British-interest bias, of course). I don't drink much, but this lot make me want to go T-total!

I am learning a lot from them about the mass of humanity that I normally stand above. That's what I want - to be able to live effectively amongst the mundanes, even the worst mundanes, the racists, the violent, the criminals and worst of all, the morons and stupids, live among them so I learn how to deal with them better. Well I've learned a lot.

But as far as fitting in goes, I'm the philosopher amongst violent degenerates, Simon from Lord of the Flies, Zarathustra preaching to those who wont listen and don't understand.

For example... no-one else in my block (of 20 people) puts their recycling in the recycling bins... they put any trash anywhere, meaning nothing gets recycled. The seniors don't care and scoff at the idea of recycling and pointless, "who cares about recycling?", "who cares about the environment, I'll be dead!".

Nonetheless, except when drunk and at their most moronic, I have friends here. Obviously I'd trust my life with them, and they'll do the same.

Conversation is nearly always misogynistic, moronic, everyone reads The Sun. Although I get respect soemtimes for reading proper newspapers and for being the ... work-unit sage (although they don't know me well yet in that sense), I have next to nothing in common with anyone here!

I've learned a lot... but I might give up on these reprobates and leave after a few years, rather than as long as I originally planned. If promotion goes well, I'll stay. Or maybe I'll move into the Information Systems department first and give that a go.

Life plans are changing too, I'm wanting to buy a house and build a base for myself, so I can get more stuff done. Work takes up a lot of evenings and weekends. But at least I'm online!

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Diogenes with his lamp? Felt a bit like that a couple of years back when I met up with some people I'd grown up with. Hatfield natives, I can probably leave it at that.

How long will you be out there for?

Mmmm.. Hatfield.. my current workplace of hell. Only 1.5 months left on the contract though... yay!

You have my sympathies! Who're you working for down there?

Oh, cool, on the old BAe site. My parents live near to there, in the Garden Village :)

Hatfield Natives... *shudder*

Well at least in my job the entire discipline and path reforms some aspects of the scum here; they learn to clean, to speak with respect to the hierarchy, to make friends quickly, to work hard, etc. Hatfield Natives must be worse!

Would you support National Service to take care of the UK's chav problem?

Yes and no. Yes the idea is brilliant, it works in some developed countries who still have national service. But, the expense and administration (jail for those who refuse??) are a little too detrimental.

In particular I believe in a system where after GCSEs, a young adult chooses between:

Civil service (care in the community, pseudo-volunteer work, etc) for a year, Army service for a year or A-Levels.

If they flunk, skive, quit or go AWOL, or fail A-Levels, then they STILL have to do either National Service or Community Work until they've done at least one to completion.

I can see a lot of benefits in that — trouble is, as long as the peasent underclass get to vote, no politician would dare even suggest it

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There is a niche here of intelligent, calm, normal adults, but they're rare and largely keep to themselves.

sucks being self - aware doesn't it?

mmm... I sympathize, but try to remember - for better or worse they're the majority, and to an extent, you're representing a minority among them, so don't stoop to their level - and don't demonize them all- there might be a few you can turn by example - especially if they find out you're with a Hot Goth Babe. :P

Re: sucks being self - aware doesn't it?

but the furries are disturbing...


I can partly sympathis with you. I work with a very mixed bunch of people. Many of the staff are very inteligent people and very few are truely moronic.
But then you have the prisoners and a large chunk of them are every bit as moronic, masoganistic and intolerent as you describe your Coworkers.

Thing is once in a while I come across one with a mind that actualy thinks. Not just about himself either but about life as a whole. It's quite strange when I find I am the one they come to for help with the really deep questions like god stuff. The fact that some of them are now comeing to me as a sort of mediator in religous arguments iskind of strange and I'm not sure why, but it's also kind of edifying.

Yep indeed, many of the same people! It is nice when there are moments of connection & brightness.


I've been reading through your website and find it nothing short of brilliant and imspired :) Still got to read a lot (there's quite a lot to read!), but so far I love what I'm reading. Hope you dont mind me adding you to my friends list.

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