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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

Offline... and back in the UK...

I'll be in the UK for a month but will be busy & nearly always offline during the week. May well be around London on the weekends so will have some internet access but only via internet cafes and the like.

So for those waiting for email replies and debate responses, you'll probably not get much until late July at which point, I'll have hundreds of emails, so be patient.

Going to be spending as much time as possible with my gf on the weekends, got a lot of catching up to do with her but nonetheless might actually go to a furmeet and might finalize a LondonSatanists meeting.

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I apologise ahead of time because I don't think this is the place to introduce myself...

My name is Marko, as per my user name. I'm from Australia, 19/M. I've read parts of your satanic bible (mostly of what you have online) and several other posts (replied to one about fashion... last post before the one i just posted was July '04). Just wanted to say that I admire you and the things I've seen that you have done. Your satanic bible (what i have read of it) is very insightful and interesting.

You're a programmer? I guess it would make sense since you have a website...

I'm studying IT. At the moment I have one and a half years remaining in my degree (half way). I must say the things I've learned about programming so far are pretty mundane and boring... seems the university is only teaching us crap. But that's the way it is I guess. The real programming hits when you get out of study and start working.

Anyways, I will try to get around to reading more material off this site, and I will also hopefully be able to post on threads and the like (as you do in a forum). Again, I apologise for introducing myself here and hope all goes well with your month back in the UK.

Kindest Regards


Hi Marko.

The Satanic Bible was written by Anton Lavey, the copyright is owned by Avon Books (I think), there should be no copies online. I, certainly, do not have and would never put a copy online. Online bookstores are frequently the best place to buy a copy.

But what I *do* have online is a large number of pages commenting on The Satanic Bible and Satanism in general. http://www.dpjs.co.uk/ which is probably what you've been reading.

Programming, to start off with, is a lot of hard work, like learning to be an artist. The best, most wonderful parts come when you have enough talent to know what you want to create... and then to be able to do it. The rewards come from gaining insight into what you want to create. I started as an Artificial Intelligence programmer, but moved on to MS-based webserver coding. Nowadays, I do hard physical labour combined with a telecommunications trade, and no more programming except little apps for my own PC. What languages are you learning at Uni? They teach you poor, old languages on purpose, selecting ones with certain features, so you master techniques that enable you to learn *any* language, later.

No worries with the context of your introduction, this was a fine place to do it.

Take care,



Yeah at uni they have taught us Java, x86 assembly, HTML, some JavaScript, and C#. Java is fantastic for programming. A friend of mine who's finished his degree is able to create 3d video games in Java, implement AI, textures, reflections, very complex lighting... very cool. C# however, is supposed to be an improvement on Java lol. The help libraries for C# suck. Sure it has some features that give you a bit more power, but with the set and get methodologies... and just little things that make it really intelligent (but too smart for my liking... that's just me :)).

I agree. Programming is an art, like all things in life. I'll always have a place in my heart for x86 assembly lol. One more push or pop and the screen starts growing trees... what i do like about x86 is the power you have over the computer. Before XP was put on machines, you could play music *on* the hard drive lol :)

Thanks for informing me about the Satanic Bible, much appreciated.

Best Regards,


ahem caffiene or other dirnks with you adn your lady?

Gladly, but definately not the coming weekend!

well just tell me when :)

Will do :-)

This weekend, her parents are meeting my parents for the first time, staying in a hotel for the weekend. Wish us all luck!

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