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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

The World Is Not Futuristic Enough

I hate the thought of dying without seeing where technology will continue to take us... the world isn't futuristic enough, life spans aren't long enough... no amount of efficiency, proficiency, energy or willpower will change the fact that I won't see AI, Cryogenics, Cybernetics, full genetic engineering, secularisation and many other things.

Poll #813972 Freeze yourself for how long?

How long would you freeze yourself for?

10 Years
50 Years
100 Years
200 Years
500 Years
1000 Years
2000 Years

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Meh, I'd rather just have life extension. A thousand-year lifetime should be enough for me to get my plans unfurled.

And before you say "There can be only one!", let me tell you. There already is. :)

Life extensions aren't really, actually, available... how about cryogenic suspension until they are though?

I don't think so. But if I had to choose, I'm afraid my answer would be "when they can actually thaw me out alive". :)

You forgot the I wouldn't freeze me option. I can't predict the future but I recon it will be just as exciting watching the future develope as actualy getting there. Plus I have wonderfull freinds who's freindship I hope to be exsperiencing right throught he next decade. I think I've been lucier than many when it comes to freinds and I'm not going to waist the exsperience of them by rushing towards somthing that may be no better than what is now.

Oh yes, and I doubt we will ever see secularisation since I doubt people will ever grasp the difference between secularisum and astheisum.

When I get defrosted, what happens? Having seen what comes out of a deep-freeze, I guess I'll be largely mush. In which case can I request that I am served lightly curried, with plenty of garlic and a glass or two of Semillon.

Given the way the world's going are you really sure you want to see the future?

Definately; the cities, computers, medical advances, exploration of the universe, scientific discoveries, increased life span... all that offsets the 'bad' things we will see: overpopulation, continued inequality, religion becoming more fundamentalist (but, less important too), extinction of species, etc.

I want to see, not just to theorize about the future.

But if you spend too much time & energy worrying about what you'll be missing in the future you end up missing all the good things there are now

Even if you could be frozen for the future then there'd still be more future to come after that which you'd miss and so on & so on. The only way to see it all would be to become immortal & then that has the pretty serious flaw that when the planet does finally die you'll go insane drifting forever in space.

Life is full of things we can't do and if you spend all your time wishing you could then you'll never be happy. Of course people hafta do it to some degree or nothing would ever get invented.

I don't think I'd really want to freeze myself at all! The way the earth is going it's probably going to be horrid in a few years time. I don't care too much for genetic engineering etc, but then I read too much sci fi and think it'll be like Brave New World or Gattaca!

As far as other technology goes I think it's dangerous to have too much technology that does everything for you - people just don't think. The woman on the plane snack trolly had to use a calculator to add 35p to 80p! and offices go to pot when the server crashes.

Gosh, that is the only thing that bothers me about dying, not knowing what happens next. I voted 500 years because that is enough time for Western Civilisation to fall and to see what comes next, and how much they laugh at our primitive society!

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