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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

Criticisms of Satanism

Black Solstice's Holy War
Read essay online and comment here


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Do you have an inability to see inconsistencies in your view?

At http://www.dpjs.co.uk/criticism/vexen.html first you say:
"Satanism, I believe, is right to refrain from making such sweeping assumptions. Self Worship is enough, and is as far as you can go before you start making things up about what is real and what is not."

But then you say that dogma is fine: "With the lack of religion there is a void. People need dogma; they need to be told what is what.............Satanism will continue to fill that void in people's little hearts. It allows one to make strong, dominant, dogmatic statements."

So basically you believe that buddhism is weak because it is dogmatic and satanism is strong because it is dogmatic. Mmmmm.

"Self Worship is enough, and is as far as you can go before you start making things up about what is real and what is not." If going around worshipping yourself because you think you are god and that you have created everything, is not some made up dogmatic bs then I don't know what is.


Highlights the fact that emotional and intellectual dogma are different things. Satanism advocates dogma in that you /know/ what the dogmatic statements are, and why they are used, and uses them for their emotional affect. Most religions genuinely believe that their fantasy and domatic beliefs are real.

Anton LaVey quote on that page reads:

"It is one thing to accept something intellectually, but to accept the same thing emotionally is an entirely different matter. The one need that psychiatry cannot fill is man's inherent need for emotionalising through dogma. Man needs ceremony and ritual, fantasy and enchantment. Psychiatry, despite all the good it has done, has robbed man of wonder and fantasy which religion, in the past, has provided.

Satanism, realizing the current needs of man, fills the large grey void between religion and psychiatry. The Satanic philosophy combines the fundamentals of psychology and good, honest emotionalising, or dogma. It provides man with his much needed fantasy. There is nothing wrong with dogma, providing it is not based on ideas and actions which go completely against human nature"

Edited at 2013-04-03 12:49 pm (UTC)

Anton LaVey : Women

I think that for the time, LaVey's thoughts were a huge breakthrough on most things including his thought on women,
sure it might be dated in a slight degree, but then again we cannot expect him to have been on the spot considering he was in the 50's era, but other that I think he was a great man, I think all that stuff Zeena LaVey is saying is just because Dr LaVey didn't want to give her the Church of Satan (of which I am a member). Only in the ninety's women started getting the right amount of respect thanks to people like Kurt Cobain and Eddie Vedder, and also in the new millenium (well Satanically not the new stage of development as it is not the new AGE). Although we also have to look at what is happening in the new millenium : People like Kid Rock are, if you read between the lines, downright sexist, we need someone with a huge Satanic point of view to step out and stamp these people out before most people go back to their sexist ways again, which is definetly not a Satanic thing!

anyone know anything about warner bros use of large inverted pentagramm in their cinema foyers


Instead of making a big long statement with lots of big words and often contradictory statements, im going to put it simply: Satanism is a load of bollocks. This site is the biggest load of bullshit I have ever read, go out and get some sunlight you pasty faced gothic losers.


erm, why are all goths satanists sudduenly?i am a goth and i am a CHRISTIAN!!.not all goths are satanists.stop being smallminded and realise that maybe just cuz people wear a lot of foundation/eyeliner, we go around worshipping satan, you ignorant fool.

there, rant over.


thats we DONT go around worshippinig satan.*slaps forehead*

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