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God's Way of Saying Things (Isn't in Hebrew!)

A new page! "God's Methods of Communication: Universal Truth Versus Hebrew and Arabic" by Vexen Crabtree (2011)

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Gods word= Nature/natural laws, God itself- the source of nature and itself is nature, beyond values

The only word of God is the creation we behold"- / It is only in the CREATION that all the ideas and concepts of the word of God can come together. The Creation speaks a universal language that does not depend on any human speech or language, multiplied and various as they may be. It is an eternal 'original copy' that all men can read. It cannot be faked or counterfeited. It cannot be lost or changed. It cannot be kept secret. It does not depend on man deciding whether to publish it or not. It publishes itself from one end of the earth to the other. It preaches to all the nations, and all the worlds. This natural word of God reveals to us all that man needs to know of God."
- Thomas Paine
It would be logical to presume that that whichw be call "God",{and others use other terms, the words/terms are not important} is beyond our notions of good and evil and all other dualisms and our personal or even special value judgements..being the source of all things{and all thigns part of IT} that are...whether we like em or not. ; )
Bill Baker

Some while ago I read Evolution of God by Robert Wright.

It's been a while since I read it, but as I recall he tried to make God play nice. Admit God is an invention of humans but argue it is a invention that shows us getting nicer and more mature.

In the words of Tina Turner:

Every now and then, we like to do something nice.. and easy. Only there's just one thing: we never do anything nice.. and easy. We only do it nice.. and rough...

evil god

Hi Vexen.

I'm an athiest and I totally agree with your point that if God exists it must be totally and completely evil.
This is why I'm an atheist. I figure with the evidence available one has two chooses. 1 GOD EXSITS BUT IS EVIL or 2 THERE IS NO GOD.
My choice is there is NO god.
Any beleiver in a God must accept that they are following evil, pure and utter evil.
I actully wrote a short story on this theme, the only difference was that the protaganist finds out he is already dead and he is infact living in hell. Everything about life was to inflict suffering and it was this world he was living in. A WORLD THAT COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN CREATED BY EVIL.
The only other option IS eveything was and is created by chance.This is what I prefer to beleive because let this be a warning to all the relgious idiots out there, if God produced this exsitance theres only more hell waiting in heaven. WHY? YOUR GOD LOVES SUFFERING!

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