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Who is Satan?

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Dogma

(Anonymous)
The dogma of all religion is "thou shalt not question!" If you question religion, you are immoral and corrupt for doubting it. Take Socrates, or Galileo.
I myself am of no religion. I find a great irony in calling yourselves "satanists" on the Christian part. You generate the exact response you want in them. It's beautiful, in a way.

Re: Dogma

(Anonymous)
Ijust come across this web sire. It is very interesting. I just read the comments on LOgic and GOD prepared by Vexen guy. I noticed that there is a guy popped out of nowhere like an angel and presented a very convincing proof that our beautiful universe definetely has a creator. (he is interpreting a collection of Risale- NUR answering all the questions) I suggest you first to read his comments and make a decision by yourself. Now I am suggesting these arguments on logic and God to everybdoy. Even in my deep inside I feel convinced by easing off all my doubts.

take vare

Eric

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I still don't understand why some people believe some things as opposed to others. To me, over all I've read and seen, Chrisitanity has been the only thing that made sense to me. As for those who have called themselves Christians and did things apposing what the Bible said, they tainted the name for the true at heart. You say that believers provide power or something. "A god is only as powerful as it's followers, and every atheist denies every god that little bit of power.". This statement is so untrue that I am not sure where or how anyone could come up with this notion. Maybe you think the Bible is just a fun little story book of myths, but I know it to be a truth. Its not something that can be told, rather, it must be experience. God will have the greatest power, whether or not he has one follower, a trillion followers, or no followers. In the Bible, God will defeat Luciefer no matter what. This is what makes sense to me.

"Lucifer" as word should not be used to refer to an evil Satan, it is a mistranslation:
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/lucifer.html

Satanism does not believe in God, as such the concept of God in society is as important as the amount of followers it has. For example, how important is Ahura Mazda? Not very important at all, and hardly has any power at all, because hardly anyone believes in it. Because Gods are fictional they have no power of their own, only their followers do anything.

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I was up all night reading essays from your various sights and then I woke up this morning and read some more. I have to say that I really enjoyed all the work and thought that you have put into them. I am not a goth or a Satanist. I am more of a mundane agnostic, but I can really appreciate your lifestyle. It's pretty neat to see that there is a whole group of people who feel the way I do.. However I didn't expect to see that they called themselves Satanists and associate themselves with the various symbols. Your sight has helped to dispell a lot of the myths I believed about modern day satanism. I do see though that it is an open rebellion towards religions especially christianity. It has to be or why would you take on the symbols of their mythical God's mythical nemisis. At first I was ready to criticize Satanism for this, but I find myself being sort of empathetic towards this rebellion as religion has been such a means of control and manipulation over people for so many years. Even Nazis called themselves Christians. Satanism seems to have a respect for life. I was raised to believe in the Catholic faith, but I just cannot accept it. To comment on some of your articles on the soul, I have questioned that for many years too. It wasn't as complex of an issue with me. Just some observations I made on changes that the brain goes though like with really intelligent people who have accidents and get brain damage. It just didn't seem like that could happen if we really all had a soul. Kind of made me realize that we really are mostly chemical and physical beings. Anyway thank you very much for all the work you invested into these sights.

The easy way out

(Anonymous)
The easy way out is the biggest part of your life isn't it? Not wanting to take on struggles, maybe not even wanting to have to work for what you get. IF Santanism "seems to have a respect for life", I'm surprised that love everlasting from Jesus doesn't seem like the "perfect" life. You have to believe you are more that just physical beings made up of chemicals. There are so many other things in life to question, why does religion have to be so questionable? You can't base everything on feelings. If you did, you wouldnt ever "FEEL" like doing or believing in anything. Don't give up on God. Santanism is to Satin- descietful serpent. THe devil is only out to give you what the world has to offer you for the time being, but when you live for yourself how ofter do you get hurt? Now take the times when you truely lived for GOD, and compare. God has more to offer you that doubts,desciet,heartache, and pain- BUt love everlasting. Do yourself a favor, quite letting the Devil doubt you, and stetch your arms wide and high like you use to when you wanted your father to pick you up. God wants you to rise to him so he can keep you from your fears and pain, and comfort you. I hope you quite doubting, and except the truth! GOD BLESS!!!

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UMM YEAH YOUR GAY

(Anonymous)
YEAH I HOPE YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T GO TO HEAVEN NOW BECAUSE YOU SUCK BALLS. ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ROT IN HELL WITH MEN GETTING YOU UP THE ASS ALL THE TIME. OH YEAH NEVER MIND THATS WHAT YOU WANT


GO SUCK BALLS

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i belive there is a satan and he is evil im not a satanist but would like to be one!i dont belive that he created the world but do belive he exists and hopefully there is such a place like hell.why do people (satanists)think he/she was good?

I have a problem with your incorrect definition of atheists. You say that atheists are opponents of god. Atheists do not believe in god, satan or any other deity. So how can they oppose something they do not believe in. They are not renouncing god because they don't believe in it.

I think that "atheists are the opponenets of god" is mostly as it is seen from the point of view of those who believe in God.

But you are right that emotionally or intellectually atheists are not "opponents" of God, merely nonbelievers. Atheism as a whole is the most sensible belief, and as such is an opponent of the idea of god(s), but sometimes I do write this as opponent of god even though it's a bit misleading.

BAD FRIDAY

(Anonymous)
Damn it! Vernace having a bad friday. Gonna tell you the truth ( Vexen ), i used to be a happy christain who was blinded by faith. Now, i am enlighted by the philosopy of satanism. i thought i am out of those crappy and hypocritical group of christain friends. Now my Ex-Sheperd is looking for me again.... ( yaya... i am a sheep, "Bah~Bah~white sheep ). I dont know why i feel bad when i avoid him. i want to avoid Christainity but not my friend.

WHAT SHOULD I DO!!! VEXEN HELP ME!!!

Re: BAD FRIDAY

(Anonymous)
THE saddest part of what your going through, is that not only did you leave the friends who go through what you went through, but you eternal father has to watch and feel you pulling away from him. How much love do you think it takes to hold on to someone who is trying to get away? How much hurt Does God have to go through. I hope you know it will never stop. GOds love can't. How can you be a satanist, if you still know that GOd loves you. I dont understand how you can throw that away. I think you need to sit and watch Passions of the Christ- that will show you the love that someone has for you. God be with you always!

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GOD WON'T SAVE YOU

God won't save you!

(Anonymous)
Actually, God is the only one capable of doing so!

This website

(Anonymous)
Whoever did this site did i very good job. I think it's one of the best sites I ran across on the subject yet.


ev9il

Thanks :-)

So lost are you moon men who are tricked to worship a lesser god who only gives you the time of your life in a fantasy because your forefather cain made a pact with him to help you moon men(white man)
rule the world. Thats why brothers have been in the wilderness because they did not orginally commit the crime of murder of another brother. It is clear you will have your place in hell 4-ever suffering with pain. Proof the devil was cast to earth; the end of the dinosaurs. Your people are not smart at all the just simply have the help of satan, his angels and his children the aliens. I do not fear 4 your soul because it is completely corrupt.

wtf???

Whut the Hell??

(Anonymous)
Nearly all u ppl r sitten ther complaining bout this website - if ur a christian - Y THE HELL ARE U HERE!?!? u should shud just fuck off 2 church and let me n the other satanists enjoy the website. 2 the guy with the shirt - more power 2 u!! I get in trouble 4 wearen shit like that 2 but thats the shit sorta world we live in lol. but neways this site is NOT gay and i'll b happy to burn in hell lol - vey xo

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(Anonymous)
If Christian people didn't look into other religions and find their own personal imput to these things, wouldn't religion be a first come-first serve deal?

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The church of Satan rally to the flag of Satan yet they underscore it with anarchy and chaos. They use familiar symbology but dilute the true essence of Satanism by denying The Dark Ones existence. Ultimately they do not fight the same cause as True Satanists. Satanism embodies the virtues of Honour, Pride, Strength and Demonic Loyalty. Church of Satan members deny their Demonic ancestry, they are mere anarchists, they are as much the enemy as the christian vermin who rule society largely unopposed. Rally not to the flag of Satan but to the Standard of Hell. Hail Satan though art supreme eternal.

SORATH

What's "Demonic ancestry"?

I mean, if you're a Christian you might hold that it is possible children of the Nephilim, etc, could have "demonic ancestry", but I don't give much credit to Christian mythology.

And... what are "True Satanists"???

I mean, I see lots of Christians running around each ignorantly claiming to know absolute truth, that I Am Right And Everyone Else is Wrong, but as Satanism is freethinking and individualistic, I don't see how there can be "true" Satanists. What other types do you think there are? False ones? In other words, "Satanists who don't believe what I believe are 'false'"? I was almost sure that Christianity pretty-much had closed-mindedness cornered, in the West, but maybe I'm wrong!

Tell me... what is this True Satanism and how do you come about it?

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O.K Vexen, I concede. It is of no consequence to me if you call yourself a satanist. You are entitled to your beliefs even if to me they are of little value. The reason I object, and I would presume others of a like mind do also, is that you have highjaked as it were the symbology of Satan. You are reductionist, demoting Satan to an intangible dark power. This dark power is insignificant. It is natural, it is not god or evil, light or dark. I fail to see why you hold it in such high esteem. You devalue the essence of what I hold true. The normal, as you put it, use of the term Satanist by the public at large is connected with the church of satan. Largely due to your high profile members such as Manson not to mention the fact that we live in a world where it is now fashionable to affect cynicism. So when I automatically get associated with atheist Satanism and the perceived world views that go with it, it almost incites me to violence.

You say I am closed minded. I probably am after all arrogance and pride are part of my demonic hereditary, still do not think you get where I am coming from with this one! However, are you not the one who runs with the pack here on Earth? Do you not cite the doctrine of La Vey? Hold him up as if a god in miniature? In your attempt to remain free thinking you have become manacled. You are Earth bound and lack spiritual integrity. This will probably sound as an insult but it is not meant as such, I hope when it comes your death is swift and that your sole does not linger as I respect you hold your beliefs with conviction even if they are clearly futile.

Sorath.

If there was one main message to be found in my page I wrote, mostly inspired by your post, http://www.dpjs.co.uk/true.html , it is that we are *both* entitled to call ourselves Satanists.

LaVey is very much an esteemed person, deification does not seem eminent, not even pseudo-deification! He was not a largely charismatic person, however, he is prominent in Satanism and I am (as you can tell...) accurately described as a LaVey Satanist.

Have you read:
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/god.html "If there is a god, it is evil"
and
http://www.dpjs.co.uk/righteous.html (List of some types of theistic Satanism), I'm interested if you think the types of theistic Satanism I've listed are too limited or vague.

satanism

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There is really nothing i can say apart from everything i have read on this site is accurate and i am pleased to see a genuine site.

Hi im albert

(Anonymous)
dark greetings
my name is albert dearth and im a beginner in the study and philosophy satanism im a beginner satanist.

i was with christian backround no longer using the religion of xtainity lost faith and interest in white religions and include right hand path they of no good use to me anymore.

about year ago i started veering towards lefthand path religions and pholosophies and much in look for satan spite in and to believe do you guys in humble reverence anymore things such more on left hand path religions and pholosophies and of course even on satan. im just a begining newbie in satanism. and which satanic denomination/brand part in satanism. and what do i need to lose to make more room in becoming a satanist.

ave you
ave satan
ave me albert m. dearth.

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Hi im albert
dark greetings
my name is albert dearth and im a beginner in the study and philosophy satanism im a beginner satanist.

i was with christian backround no longer using the religion of xtainity lost faith and interest in white religions and include right hand path they of no good use to me anymore.

about year ago i started veering towards lefthand path religions and pholosophies and much in look for satan spite in and to believe do you guys in humble reverence anymore things such more on left hand path religions and pholosophies and of course even on satan. im just a begining newbie in satanism. and which satanic denomination/brand part in satanism. and what do i need to lose to make more room in becoming a satanist.
email address is aderth1@comcast.net

ave you
ave satan
ave me albert m. dearth.


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