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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards

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Vexen Crabtree 2015

Institutionalized Religions Have Their Numbers Inflated by National Polls

"Institutionalized Religions Have Their Numbers Inflated by National Polls" by Vexen Crabtree

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God the abusive lover

I am gradually working my way through your website. Your thinking is a little deeper and broader than mine, as is your reading, but mostly I have arrived at the same conclusions as you.

One thought that you may have touched on but I have not seen exactly offered yet, is that religious belief fits the template of "abusive relationships." While there are many flavors, the traditional paradigm is an attractive woman in a relationship with a mean (or even violent) man. Every time someone tells her to break away, she says, "But I love him so much."

All life involves suffering and death without any purpose or meaning. Many of my close friends profess to be religious, some evangelical conservative, some new age and spiritual. When they talk about God's love, it's similar to a lover talking about how they know their abuser "really loves them." When they talk about the misfortunes of life, whether disease, deluge, disaster, decay, they say that God is "mysterious," just as a rejected or abused lover knows that if they only learn to talk correctly to the man who beats her (or him, as the case may be), the abusive lover will demonstrate love. For religious lovers, constant "prayer" corresponds to placating the abusive lover.

Here in the United States, about 70-90% of people claim to believe in God. My estimate (subjective, but compatible with your analysis here) is that 70-90% of people who profess to believe in God, really do not. Their reasons for their claims include desperate hope that Pascal's Wager (dreadfully flawed thinking as you have pointed out elsewhere) is really correct, or that religious belief is "good for" their children (that is, postpones the day when the children realize the existential dilemma), or that the silly hopes for Heaven and fears of Hell will persuade other people to be "good"; that is, not act like the sociopath/psychopaths in the genes of all human and dominant in all too many.

Re: God the abusive lover

Thank you for your reasonable thoughts; I'm going to mull over the "abusive relationship" idea for a while and see if it fits besides any text I've got at the moment!

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