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Sociology, Theology, Anti-Religion and Exploration: Forcing Humanity Forwards


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Vexen Crabtree 2015
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Why dispense with Christianity or theism?

"Time to Move On: Religion Has Cost Too Much" by Vexen Crabtree (link updated 2010 Feb)

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Re: Satanism and strong atheism-not THE unreligion{satanic superiorty}.

(Anonymous)
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...What of "athiesms" superiority? It simply is not. I am not agnostic myself, I've leaned more towards Deism and deistic offshoots{PanDeism,PanenDeism} since I abandoned faith based religion{christianity}, but I can honestly say that fact is if there is such a philosophy of whether or not their is a creator/or creative force and/or spiritual realites -it would be agnosticism, not atheism, nor even my personal view of deism{and deistic offshoots}.
I find the constant proclaiming of athiesm and Satanism put into such superior words and attitues to be off putting and makes me not trust those whom would proclaim them as so superior.
No offense to you, because thus far I've great respect for you and most of your essays and views, but I feel that some honest and positive{or perhaps not so positive,depends on your view} critisism of these ideas needs to be put forth. For Satanism and athiesm are attempting to rear for themselves a throne, and if they don't tread more wisely and carefully-they could be the future oppressors, these hypocrisies w/in both strong athiesm and satanism{whether atheistic satanism,or just each on their own} need to be thouroughly examined and criticasized; hell...even Ragnar redbeard says so in Laveys plagiarized "book of satan" and Lavey even says so in his own words at times, by pointing out that no dogma and no creeds should build a throne to themselves and where they do and fail to truly fit up to the facts-they should be assailed{many satanists refuse to do this w/their own religion,their own founder,etc; but do it to theistic faiths and neopagans religions w/impunity}.

My View is this; ALL FREETHOUGH RELIGIONS AND PHILOSOPHIES THAT ARE REASON{NOT FAITH} BASED ARE EQUALLY THE "UNRELIGIONS" AND EQUALLY DESERVING OF WINNING A BETTER WORLD FOR ALL OF US{WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT SUCEED AT; WE CERTAINLY WON'T SO LONG AS WE IGNORE EACH OTHER IN OUR FREETHOUGHT SECTARIANISMS}-AND THEY ALL{OR MOST F THEM, CERTAINLY MORE THAN ONLY SATANISM}STAND EQUALLY FOR THE TRUTH!!!

I mean you no offense Vexen, but frankly, I'm dissapointed. Because from I have seen -you are much more intellgent than to buy into this Laveyan hypocriteical rhetoric of Laveyan tpye "strong" atheistic Satanisms superiority.
I'm dissapointed because I frankly have ALOT of respect for you, and personally think that you can think more criticallyand wisely than that.

So, I'm gonna say that the comment from you which I quoted was a half-truh at best!

Apart from this rant, I gotta say in regards the rest of your essay-excellent work as always man! Once again, the nail has been hiton the head by you. Keep up the good work.

In Reason:
Bill Baker

p.s. my opinions on Universism and agnosticism{or deism for that matter} or on Buddhism are what I can see froma truly critical eye; however, I am not syaing that they are neccaserily superior to Satanism or athiesm{atheisst are one of the staples of the universist movement; and Buddhists are essentially spiritual atheists or perhaps pantheists}, I'm simply saying that they are equal "at least". All freethought philosophy and faithless un-religions are equally superior to faith and theism.

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