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Devil Worshipping

"Devil Worshipping" by Vexen Crabtree


Why not worship?

(Anonymous)
Views of those who worship the devil are bias. Some people have been raised to believe in God and are not happy with that force so they want to oppose it. Why would you just say its nature and use the Devil as a Symbol. How can you yourself gain power with out help. People use others to gain power, is that not being helped by others, and others are weak so why not worship a central diety. I mean Im ify right now with the Lutheran religion and have been considering Satanism but I like the idea of believing in a central diety. It just makes more sense to believe in something then just say its by chance. I dont know, tell me what you think. I just want to learn more about all forms of Satanism

Views of those who worship god can be bias.

I was raised to believe in god. But i dont believe in god as a force, and i am not trying to oppose something that doesnt exist. Christians assume way to much.

When will christians realize that this is all crap that was told to you by your pastor, or revrend, or parents was to keep you believing, and keep you wary of anyone else who does not believe. Just because someone preaches it does not mean its true.

It is good to explore other religions, other thoughts and ideas. Make informed decisions about the way you want to live your life.

interesting site

(Anonymous)
http://www.mythofjesus.org.uk/

I know there is a lot to read on this site but it raises some good points on how the bible contradicts itself and shows PROOF. Any christians who want to have an intelligent debate about the existence of god are more than welcome to providing you can quote the bible and show proof just as this site does.

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Re: you people need to see the truth

(Anonymous)
no my friend, that is what you deem to be the "truth". If that's the truth prove it. Atheists have nothing to prove as we aren't the ones claiming the existence of something that nobody is even sure exists.

another Bible quote

(Anonymous)
"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
- John 3:20-21

Re: another Bible quote

(Anonymous)
how the heck does quoting the bible do anything to "convert" people to christians or somehow make people see the error of their ways just because they choose not to believe in god.

i am planning a book about what the emotion love is. I have been finding informatoin from different sources including the interenet i would like you to reply.I'm not here to ask a question of you about satanism rather than to ask you for youre definitions on love and do u think love is based through sexual attraction?If you do not believe that love is based on sexual attraction do you believe it is okay for family memebers to love other family memebers in the way that they would want to be partners?

Excuse me, but I DO NOT worship the devil. Just because I am not a christian does not mean I worship the devil. I get so tired of christians that think there are only 2 religions out there...christianity and satanism. And they dont even know what satanism is! (just what they THINK it is)

In the christian school I was raised in I was told many lies. One being that a person is either a christian or aligned with the devil. They never bothered to teach us that there are other religions out there. Other points of view.

There are many accounts of "missionaries" going to remote civilizations and turning them to christianity because they know no better. The church I attended as a child did this. There are many accounts in christian explorers in the past doing this also. Promising them gold mansions and riches when they die, or an alternative of eternal damnation and suffering. That is very poor behavior if you ask me. I don't even want to be associated with anyone like that. It sickens me.

I personally think that a religion based on using scare-tactics and false promises of riches and gold after death is DISGUSTING. How can this be an uplifting religion, how can this be good for the world that supposedly this "god" created?

I guess in reading my post before submitting it soemthing sounds unclear. Let me explain. I don't like religion. period. I think it is somehting that humans came up with to basically fool themselves. Answer questions that they could not answer with their limited konweldge at the time. Make them feel better about losing loved ones. Cope with the society that we created. To answer the "why are we here" question. But now we have come so far in our knoweldge, science has shown us so much. Why continue to fool ourselves? Why continue to judge and persicute those who you deem "satanists" because we don't believe in your god? Human beings are able to be smarter than that now. Why keep yourself ignorant???

Please feel free to practice any religion you want, but dont infringe on those same rights for everyone else!

Re: Saanism?

(Anonymous)
That's spot on there. I totally agree. Just because we aren't christians or we choose not to believe in god, it does not make us bad people. We live the same lives as christians(just without the church thing, and the god thing, actually without the whole religion thing).

the site

(Anonymous)
your information is amazing and more helpful than you will ever know. i'm working on a paper i call LaVey vs. Devil Worship. and i found some of the best support to my arguement on this site. wanted to thank you. rock on.

The misconception that prevents people from understanding and appreciating GOD is that people forget that this life is temporary and what ever we do here will be accounted for in the world here after.
When we forget this, it is easy to assume that money and power are the two ruling forces.
However , those who know that everything in this world is a test, believe that how they perform in the test will earn them credit. They know that being poor is a test....do you keep complaining and blame your misfortune about it, or be thankful and make the most of it. Being rich is a test.... do you forget who the omnipotent is or that this money will not go with you to the grave.
So everything is a test, because
this world is temporary, and if it is so, then why indulge in satanic acts to give reason to our actions? because in the end we have to bear the responsibility of our own action in front of GOD.

YAWN...

(Anonymous)
An awful lot of these christians and the like are starting to sound like broken records...You don't have to believe in god to be thankful if you are poor, nor do you have to believe in god to remember the important things in life when you are filthy rich. What is wrong with people these days? If god is omnipotent, that means that he created evil as well, didn't he? Please, correct me if i'm wrong.

God, schmod (Anonymous) Expand
YOU ARE A FREAK OF NATURE! I HOPE YOU REALIZE THAT YES, THERE IS A DEVIL AND WHEN YOU DIE, YOU ARE GOING TO BURN IN HELL WITH HIM! YOU NEED TO GET OVER YOURSELF, GROW UP, AND GET IN CHURCH! A REAL CHURCH!!!! GOSH, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO YOURSELF! JUST REMEMBER, GOD LOVES YOU NO MATTER WHAT, AND HE'LL FORGIVE YOU IF YOU JUST COME TO HIM AND APOLOGIZE. I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN HEAVEN. YOURS TRULY, BRITANY P.S. sorry for the caps, i just wanted to get my point across! =)

Devil Worshipping

(Anonymous)
Please don't insult what you don't understand. There seems to be many erroneous comments amongst the postings here, and...well...I don't appreciate this libel. By the way, most of the negative activities people think about when they think about Satanism are ones any self-respecting Satanist would never participate in. We don't worship Satan, we don't even believe he exists(I'm still talking about the self-respecting, REAL Satanists, check out the COL and stuff), but we follow him as a symbol of individuality, creativity, and the dislike of religions where people aren't allowed to doubt without the worry of people telling them they are going to hell for not believing something. Sometimes, he can even signify love. It also scares me that so many people obviously with a strong Christian viewpoint are being so nasty with their postings. Aren't you supposed to love people? And I also thought you people believed cursing was bad. I was shocked to find that one of you called us 'gay fag motherfucking bastards,' or something along those lines, on the first page of these comments.

All things pass

(Anonymous)
Don't know the real truth and don't want to impose on people...just felt sorry that something so small can cause a lot of upheaval in people's lives and thoughts....Im a christian, although ive seen other "christians" and how they conduct themselves, so i am often ashamed to be associated with them...i believe that God loves all people, and I personally am trying to love people....however it is hard at times. I am not a "bible-thumper" and often, i read the bible for entertainment more often than as a guidebook....the one book in the bible that really helps me out most is "Ecclesiastes". I am not forcing this on you, again...just making a small pointy suggestion. heh heh. sorry about the badmouthing you have to take from "Christians"...i believe in God...I try to follow his teachings...and I will try to love you as another human being with intelligence and a soul...(notice I said try because its hard to love someone you've never met or came in contact with)...what you believe is your business...sorry to bother you...and have a nice life.

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That,s the whole point you idiot we don't believe and any after life.

I think that satanists need Jesus. The end is near and Jesus is coming soon. and if you want eternal life, you aint gonna get it worshiping the devil, but through christ Jesus, lord and saviour! so please, repent today!

I Guess I am a Satanist

(Anonymous)
If a Satanist does not believe in Satan, God and all the other objects of worship, then count me in. I have always believed that the need to worship a God of any type is just a human weakness. Weak humans need something to worship to look up to. It used to be the Sun, Moon, or even something like the sea. Once we were able to explain these things we needed to find something that we could not explain, so God was invented.The simpler the people the more intense the belief. Just look at islam, the need to pray so much and to live a life around a God shows how simple these people are. At least christians have evolved out of this basic approach to worship. All religions are a confidence trick with the priests being the winners.
I live for today with only my own god, my brain, to worship

Re: I Guess I am a Satanist

Rar!

Hail Satan, Hail thyself!

you all smell

(Anonymous)
everyone who believes in the devil is christian, and therefore smells.
you all smell
smelly
dead brains on you
i hope someone has enough sense to slit your stomach and feed you your intestines
yum yum
eat up

Re: you all smell

I like you :-)